Mamma Mia! | 29

Show Notes:

Pop Culture Makes Me Jealous and To All the Men I've Tolerated Before team up to bring you Still Comfy? a show that examines pop culture properties and whether or not Julia Washington and Natalie Katona are still comfy with them. 

In this episode, the pair is joined by Paige Folks from For Folk's Sake to discuss the 2008 film Mamma Mia, starring Amanda Seyfried, Meryl Streep, Christina Baranski and so many more!

This episode originally aired August 8th, 2022

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Transcript:

Julia: Hey friends, this is still comfy with Jules and NA I'm your host, Julia Washington. I host pop culture makes me jealous where we analyze pop culture through the lens of race or gender. And sometimes both. Um, as always, I am joined by Natalie. Catona hit it, Natalie. It's 

Natalie: me. I'm Natalie Catona. I'm the host and producer of two, all the men I've tolerated before your weekly look at everyday misogyny.

Natalie: And we are, I become like a, like a slight of hand magician. Every time we do this, like, I mean, maybe, 

Julia: maybe you're not fully Croatian. There's some Italian blood in there. That tracks, that tracks. Um, we are joined today with Paige, from, for folks sake. She's a fellow podcaster and we are very excited because she's our very first like guest ever here on still comfy as our loyal listeners know, it's just Natalie and I talking about something that digresses into a FaceTime.

Julia: Yeah. And we're very excited to have Paige here. She. Not only a dedicated watcher of our love or watcher of our live shows is love of our, I was trying to say in our love, yeah, dedicated, loyal. She's we love her. Um, she also hosts her own podcast. So I'm gonna throw, I'm gonna let Paige give you the rundown on who she is and her show.

Julia: Hello 

Paige: everyone. Natalie Julia's listeners and friends. My name is Paige. I'm the host of the for folks sake podcast. And our premise is that you never say no to a conversation because you will always learn something from it. So we're all about education through conversation, figuring out what we can learn.

Paige: And we literally talk. Where I literally talk to everyone about everything, even the uncomfortable topic. 

Julia: So it's fun. I love that. I love that. I love that. And we're super glad you're here. And I recently did a recording with Paige. I feel like Natalie and Paige are also gonna be doing a recording at some point.

Julia: So we're just like at this point episode swapping, cuz that's what you do when you're friends and you also podcast. true. Right? Natalie, were you gonna say something? You looked like you were gonna say something. 

Natalie: Well, first off, Paige, welcome to the only way that I spend time with my friends. so, um, this is it.

Natalie: If you would like to book time on the Calendarly to get me to work, but look at you and be like, remember how we were friends. This is how you do it. Everything's for content. You gotta gimme that. 

Julia: IRU that link into the chat. So people free time. What's $50 hour. 

Natalie: That's right. What's your hourly rate? Uh, 50 Jules hit it.

Natalie: And, um, I was going to remind our live listeners that if you are alive, because we use the third party streamy yard system. Yeah. Um, they have to drop us a comment to tell us hello or else. We won't know that they're 

Julia: there also true. Yes. Thank you for that reminder, my fellow co-host cuz I mean, there needs to be two of us for a reason.

Julia: If you are here and you are enjoying our show so far drop is a comment. So we know that you're here so we can bring you into the conversation cuz you know, we love to do that. Mm-hmm definitely OK. Today. I'm still comfy. We are looking at. Mama Mia 

Natalie: Mamamia. Mm-hmm . Here I go. Here I go again. That's what it is, mama.

Natalie: Hi, Alexis. yes. Welcome Alexis. 

Julia: We're excited. You're here. Mama Mia, as you all know, was released July 18th, 2008. So it's been a hot minute. It is the film adaptation of the jukebox musical. I didn't come up with that of the same name, that first premiered in London in April of 1999. So it took a long time for it to become a screen adaptation.

Julia: So, and in our, at, over at pop culture, mixed food jealous, we always kick off with. The question of what is it about this movie that you loved and why? So why don't we just dive from there and then we'll just turn this into a FaceTime call. 

Paige: perfect. 

Natalie: Hey, you can go first because this was your pick. 

Paige: True. It is my pick.

Paige: I think mostly though. I would like to say, I think I like it mostly because there's like a nostalgia factor attached to it where like me and my cousins, we would be like in the living room, jumping off the couches, like the scene where she's like jumping on the bed, like we would do that too. So there's a lot of nostalgia attached to it, but rewatching it, I feel like I had a very deep appreciation for like, even though it felt, you know, I'm a theater kid.

Paige: So even though it felt like a production, like a theater production, it still flowed. Very well, and it also 

Julia: had a 

lot 

Paige: of themes that when I was rewatching it, I was like, oh, I wonder, like, for example, is anyone gonna shame her for her, the mother for her like sexual promiscuity at the time? Mm-hmm mm-hmm so I was like, I don't really remember if anyone like really did shame her or if it was like her self shame.

Paige: And so it was fun to revisit it with good lenses and plus like who doesn't love ABA? Like honestly, every time I'm sad, I just listen to gimme, gimme, 

Julia: gimme, so, oh my gosh. The soundtracks, 

Paige: like, honestly better than the movie, I do love the movie, but I could listen to the soundtrack every day of 

Julia: my life.

Julia: Love 

Natalie: that mama Mia was the first, uh, professional Broadway tour that my mother took me to on. So you saw it on stage. I saw it on stage. Oh, I love 

Julia: that. How old were you? 

Natalie: So wicked is technically, I think the first musical I saw professionally done in Chicago on their, in one of their Broadway theaters, but I went with a friend and her mom.

Natalie: So it was right around that like 15 to 17 age mark, or maybe mama Mia was first and I was younger who's to say, time is a construct and you were wildly unsupervised, wildly unsupervised. I never knew how old I was. I still don't. Um, and I do remember that at the very end, when it's the wedding reception, you are invited to dance for the last number.

Natalie: And that is when my mother chose for us to leave. And I'm like, they just told us we could dance. 

Julia: You sat through all of that Abba music. I did having to control yourself in the seat of the theater. 

Natalie: My mother did not learn theatrical blue balls, 

Julia: right? Yes. Theatrical, this mm-hmm . 

Natalie: My mother did not let me bump nor grind and I'm upset jive.

Natalie: you know, hustle any of it. Um, this go around when I was watching mama M I love this movie. Um, it really impassioned me to become a CAG on the Medi Mediterranean . I will be a CAG this year for Halloween, probably a sexy one. I can't help it. And I mean, crop tops. Once I make my money, you won't be able to find me because I will be living on a.

Natalie: Via Meryl Streep on the Mediterranean. See, looking at that blue every day covered in linen covered in linen is telling me that 

Julia: that's how we're breaking up as creative partners. 

Natalie: Yeah. But we'll be old. I'll be a ha I'll have finally evolved into my final form. 

Julia: Hollywood's definition of a hag is 40. So we ain't got much time or at least I don't.

Julia: Okay. 

Natalie: So. My grand. Aunt's never aged. So I'm like holding on to that. Okay. My mother also not aging, probably aging backwards. Yeah. Um, like Benjamin button, this go around besides the Mediterranean C. I also tried to focus on how many inconsistencies mama Mia. Here we go. Again, created for the original musical

Julia: Did you watch the second one at recently or did you just only watch the first one 

Natalie: for our chat? I meant to watch both. Um, and then GenCon exhausted me. 

Julia: I just slept through the second one. I'm be honest. Like I put it on. 

Natalie: Sorry. I put it on cause like, oh, I'm gonna watch a sequel. I love sequels. Sequel is so much.

Natalie: Fun's so good at it. She's so good. As young Donna, who is Lily? James? Isn't that? Who plays her? Is it? I think so. Let me look. Maybe I 

Julia: haven't seen 

Natalie: this sequel and then Cher is in it. Um, I haven't seen the secret. You haven't seen it. You stop, you're talking about Newsies or something. 

Paige: yes, it is Lily. James you're correct, Natalie.

Paige: Thank you. I love 

Julia: Lily, James. 

Natalie: We all love Lily. Do 

Julia: you remember when it was rumored that she was dating Chris Evans? Do you remember that? I don't remember that. Cuz I, it was during the pan. It was during the first part of the pan, you know, or 

Natalie: right before we all ended up in bed with someone during the pan.

Natalie: So not me. Oh, . Just me. Oh, just me. Okay. Just me. That's fine. I mean, 

Julia: you have to remember. I was like working myself to do, I shaved like 10 years off of my life because of the job I was doing. I was mad. No longer do that job. 

Natalie: Yeah. Yeah. 

Julia: Okay. So let's talk about like what we're gonna do all the easy stuff first.

Julia: Okay. Do you have a favorite scene in this film? Because Roger Ebert was like, Hey, I'm not the audience. I appreciate that. He acknowledged that he wasn't the audience for this movie cuz it took him his whole career to finally fucking figure that shit out. Right. But secondly, he did say that it is a lot of fun and the movie version actually lends itself for more creativity and excitement than the stage can because stage, as we know can be a little restrictive.

Natalie: I love how these big Broadway. Theatrical movies, make sure to incorporate those big chorus numbers. Mm-hmm with the choreography and everything. So anytime we were doing that gold, I got chills when she started to do honey, honey. Mm. I was like, I didn't even know that this was my favorite song. Oh yeah.

Natalie: But I sit through mama Mia and mama Mia. Here we go again. So at the end, I am rewarded with Colin Furth in a glittery jumpsuit. Mm-hmm giving it his. Yes. 

Julia: Yes. That's 

Paige: the best part. Nothing left outta context. No, like the choreography number in VU when it's like, they're all like, I'm your 

Julia: dad and she's like a 

Paige: that's the best.

Paige: I love that. 

Natalie: It's awesome. And like, honestly, like Donna was hard up for some cash. She should have turned that hotel into a nightclub. I was like, why didn't you think of that after the wedding recept yeah. Also 

Julia: I was kinda like when, who was trying to give her a check? Colin first was trying to give her a check.

Julia: Yes mm-hmm I don't want girl. I would've taken that check so fast. Like thank you. There's not enough zeros. Can you add up, my name is spelled, right? Yeah. Did yes. Yes. Where can I, this, can I get a same 

Natalie: day advance Colin birth could send me a check today. I wouldn't question it. 

Julia: Amen. Same 

Natalie: Z's maybe he knocked me up.

Natalie: Maybe he didn't. I don't know. I would take a check from anybody at this point who wants to give? Yeah. If you go over to the men, I've tolerated pod, uh, Instagram, there is a link to Venmo. You don't even have to write anything down anymore. People , it's this easy. Modern 

Paige: technology is beautiful. We are all accepting checks at the moment.

Paige: Mm-hmm I would say one of my favorite scenes is when the mom and her friends are singing 

Julia: super trooper. Oh yeah. And it's like so 

Paige: slow. I seriously, I remember tearing up as a teenage girl and I teared up last night too. Listen, and 

Natalie: then they look like, not that anyone. I love my mom. not that anyone watched the sequel, but me, but then they revisit that in the sequel with Amanda seari.

Julia: If you had warned a girl 

Natalie: or gal that I had the whole se sequel memorized, I don't know that you were also gonna watch the sequel. I didn't watch it though. I just haven't memorized. I saw it, but you had it memorized with my mother. We would 

Julia: have maybe found the. To prepare that too. I thought key word.

Julia: Maybe I thought key word. Maybe 

Natalie: some of us were busy was among other share enthusiasts. And once again, I find myself alone. Sorry. 

Julia: I, excuse me. Haven't didn't I tell you I've been listening to which sunny and share album is it like on repeat? I'm pretty sure my neighbors are like, you need to be done. You just need to be done.

Julia: You need to be done. And I'm like, why album? The best? It's the best album ever. 

Natalie: Oh, 

Julia: that's so funny. Oh, just we don't have the money to pay for it. I had to stop it real quick. Drag click on the album and it, 

Natalie: YouTube will shut us down. Yeah. Fast 

Paige: YouTube. YouTube can sense what you're gonna play and they shut you down before you even press play on the phone.

Paige: I know. I hope we don't 

Julia: get shut down turned. I hope we don't get taken down. Cuz I played two seconds of that song on accent. I was just trying to look at the album. I 

Natalie: want everyone who is watching right now to put in the comments, their favorite Abba song and maybe. Yeah, I'll do a bad rendition of it. Oh, the sunny.

Natalie: Just 

Julia: it's just, 

Natalie: what is it? Is it just called 

Julia: sunny and share? Yeah, it's just called sunny and 

Paige: share. It's a self-titled album. 

Julia: I mean share. 

Natalie: Yeah. And then they just put Roman numerals after it, when they released new ones, literally 

Julia: have been on repeat. Cuz I rive. I need the seventies just for a 

Natalie: moment. All that Googling for it to be called sunny and share.

Natalie: I know . Hi Mario. What's your favorite Abba song, Mario. 

Julia: It's about time you showed up, sir. We've been waiting patiently. 

Natalie: Just kidding. 

Paige: Off half past our freckles waiting 

Julia: for 

Natalie: you, Mario. I would like the record to show that once again. I was happy to see him. I love seeing 

Julia: Mario don't be mean. Oh no. We were actually literally talking before.

Julia: We went live about how anyway, it's not important. Here's the next question I have actually, Paige, you said you had something very, that that was like very, oh yes. Is it time to get into it? I mean, if you want, yeah. Yeah. Always. 

Paige: I am obsessed with the fact that the, um, one friend is like falling in love with a younger man and no has anything.

Paige: Oh, excuse. Yeah. They're like, yes, girl. It's pepper. And what's her name? Pepper's a boy's name. I looked this up TA 

Julia: Tanya, Tanya and pepper. Yeah. You're 

Paige: on the beach together. And they're like the night before they were like, mm mm. You know, he's like, let's finish what we started. And she's like, oh 

Julia: no. 

Natalie: Does, does your mother know where you are?

That's 

Julia: yeah, 

Paige: on the beach scene. And I was like, 

Julia: I mean, honestly, in his defense, Christine Bransky. Gorgeous. 

Natalie: I love Christine. Bransky like 

Julia: gorgeous. I'm not even surprised that there would be anybody who like, wouldn't want to try and hit that. And she's so talented. She's like, she's so under I was watching it and I was like, God, Christine Bransky is completely underrated.

Julia: Like she does. She is she at, she's not at the same level of fame as Meryl street, but like I've seen her in such a wide variety of titles that I'm just like girls, never the same person 

Natalie: twice. She's so good. 

Paige: She's so good. She's so good. And she definitely plays that part. So perfectly of like mm-hmm I feel like when you see her, you can picture your like favorite high maintenance auntie.

Paige: Yeah. Definitely has like, is definitely a Cougar. Definitely like spending a bunch of punish 

Julia: paying for my weddings after my third, third, 

Natalie: literally. That was so funny. I blame my gosh. I blame character actors like Christine Baranski for why I'm so unhinged, because I'm like, I cannot wait until I am my sister's children's aunt who just goes to Europe and then comes for home for Christmas and just showers them with little trinkets that are connected to like all of my lovers.

Natalie: And I kind of tell them, but I don't. And then they have to like go to bed that night and be. So like aunt Natalie fucks, right? Like she fucks her way through continents and like, they have to like lay in there and wonder 

Paige: and they'll like search for your journal that will give them all the answers one day, 

Julia: both mm-hmm 

Natalie: and, you know, I write, you know, that I write everything down, you know, that I'm like, oh my gosh.

Natalie: I like, yes. And how bold is it to find your mother's diary and be like, I will write to these three strangers and pretend that this is a paternity test. Yeah. That was 

Paige: another thing I wanna talk about was the audacity of the movie. Like if I did that, 

Julia: my mom would whoop me. Right. Is it because she's 20? Is 

Natalie: that why.

Natalie: Yeah, very young cause this 20 year old 

Julia: is like, I'm getting married. Which what, like, thank you, Donna, for being very concerned about your daughter wanting to get married at 20, I would be worried 

Paige: too. I'm still worried. I got married at 20. Well, you did. I, I, I, 

Julia: I was like, 

Paige: say something. I can definitely respect as like an older, like upper 20 now to be like, whoa, when I got that worked out because right.

Paige: What are the odds of it working out? I mean, I'm, it worked out perfectly. Yeah, but 

Julia: that is probably like a one in 1000 chance getting married 

Paige: in it, like working out. 

Natalie: You broke the ratio. Yeah. You're the 

Julia: outlier. Mm-hmm I love it, man. You know, 

Natalie: one time, one time Midwestern health class, um, traumatized me about STIs and I, it was like seventh grade and I remember being in the car with my mother and like, you know, how they always talk to you about STIs, like through the transient property.

Natalie: Like if your mother ever screwed a guy that had like an St you could have that St and you just don't know, is that just a Midwestern thing or is it just like 

Julia: elder, millennial? Maybe it's an elder millennial thing. Cuz I also remember that too. Like the whole, cause on top of that, it was. Everyone you've ever had sex with.

Julia: Right. You've had sex with, let me get every disease. And I remember too, like when I was pregnant with my son, people, they would be like, well, we've gonna, we're gonna test you for all these diseases, because if you, this is so gross, I'll say it this way. If you have natural birth, there could be things that pass through.

Julia: And you're just like, What . 

Natalie: So they would like draw it like a football thing where they would be like, okay, you've only had sex with this person. Unfortunately they've had sex with all of these people. So you two have had sex with all of these people. It was like, man, I've seen that 

Julia: premise. Yes. Yeah, 

Paige: yeah, yeah.

Paige: No, but I didn't ever, I understand the premise, but I don't think anyone ever sat me down as a child and was like, I remember when the boys got to go to the locker room and the girls stay in the classroom, they're like, this is what your period 

Julia: is. Yeah. Like this is what, which isn't even an accurate represe conversation.

Julia: I'd already got 

my 

Paige: period by then. I was like, lame. Yeah. So 

Natalie: cool. So my mom picks me up from middle school and I'm just like sitting quietly because I'm virginal, I'm traumatized. Like I probably have like undiagnosed ADHD or something. So I don't know not to ask my mom this. And I'm like, mom, Did you have sex with someone who wasn't dad?

Natalie: Because like, if you did, I could have herpes and she almost like crashed the car oh, rightfully so. So like to rifle through my mother's diary and be like, Hey, could any of these dudes be my dad? like, right. The range. 

Julia: Another 

Paige: thing is like, why is it that hard to figure out who the father is? And they never really say who the dad is, but here's the thing is when they have like 

Julia: all the like flashbacks, 

Paige: it's like mm-hmm oh, we were in France.

Paige: Oh, we were so flower power together. Oh, we were rocking out. It's like. This seems like this couldn't have happened in a four week 

Julia: span, but it did, perhaps 

Natalie: it did. And it did, but Mamam here we go again. 

Julia: Okay. Because it's, it is really easy to hop around Europe. Like it's not like the states where it takes, you know, 40, like getting, like when I talk to people about how long California is, or like some, my friends back used to be like, oh, I'm not making that drive.

Julia: It's four hours. I'm like, are you kidding me? Like, that's literally what we, that's not even half my state to get through. Um, but to your point, Paige, like at the end, when they're all, like, I'll be a third of your dad, I'll be a third of your dad. You, I was like, what 

Natalie: on actual fuck. I love it. I love it. It is the most unrealistic part of this movie that not at one point were any of those men.

Natalie: Feelings hurt, like Pierce, Bron tried. And then Colin for was like, what if we just walk her down the aisle and through life and then Pierce, Bron, and then like, you know, the, um, the scars guard was just down for anything. So he is like, that's cool with me. He was the most, and then Pierce name was playing, was named after parent anyway.

Julia: Right, right. That's why 

Paige: I think that that's her dad. I think Bill's her dad. That's another thing I think we should all guess. Oh, well Mario said that the prequel explains who the dad is, but I think it's bill, because she worked for him. The aunt left her money and she named it after her. But I think she wanted it to be Sam.

Paige: So that's why she was like, oh, it was 

Julia: Sam. And he 

Paige: went home and he got married, blah, blah, blah. Which like also questionable. But yeah. 

Julia: Yeah. And when he said he has three grown kids, I was like, how could you have grown kids? If you got married after you knocked up potentially. Right. Our, our gal 

Natalie: Donna. Right.

Natalie: Can we talk, can we talk about the audacity of men, by the way? Like for one thing, they, all three of them come in on a boat, the same boat, and then they're just like hanging out in her attic and Donna falls in through the roof. Not one of them asks if she's okay. They just immediately like, try to feel her up some more.

Natalie: And 

Julia: I'm like, and she like left her legs up for that length of time. You're like, girl. And then like, hold '

Natalie: em down. Honestly. Like I have been tricked by Xes like that, where you immediately wanna giggle at them again. But then I'm like, nevermind bill. I'm gonna like kick you in the balls. And um, but at no point, do they ever, like at any point, like question the emotional ramifications they might be having on Donna, they're just like, why doesn't Donna wanna see us?

Natalie: We don't understand. We thought, should we rehearse surprise, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I was like, think real. About why she might not wanna see you. It's so obvious, right? I need you all to take a beat. I need you all to take a beat as to why it might be hard for Donna to look at you and need us all to recall.

Natalie: Mama Mia, here we go again and figure it out. Gentlemen. Um, wait, 

Julia: so cuz there's a lot because you know, it's on an island, so there's this scene where they're catching the boat to get to the island. Like 

Natalie: how does that play out on stage? How does that play out on stage? They literally just arrive. Oh, they just arrive.

Natalie: I'm sure. There's like a dock and then Bill's like, I'll take yeah, sure. And then like Broadway magic and then they arrive 

Julia: and they move the waves across the stage while they're like crouched underneath it. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I don't know why I'm so dumb about how this could be a stage production, maybe because I love all of the stage production production first.

Julia: I know it was a stage production first. And when you think about it, 1999, so it's 1979, right? Yeah. And that was definitely a year. It didn't exist. 

Natalie: Also those three men were all intelligent, accomplished men and they couldn't put it together. Why a 20 year old. Would wanna call you after 20 years had gone by mm-hmm that you hooked up with her mom?

Paige: Well, and also, can we talk about the fact that if I got an invite from someone like an ex or something, I'd be like, oh, okay. Whatever. And then you figure out that he also invited two other women. Like, yeah. 

Natalie: I'm not, 

Julia: no, I 

Paige: would be completely different from men to women. I wouldn't even go if I got, or I'm gonna become their best friends and spite 

Julia: you.

Julia: Yeah. Like if I got an invitation from an ex to go to their wedding, to their child's wedding, to their child's wedding, to their child's wedding, I'd be like, nah, I'm good. Oh, I dare. Maybe I'll send a gift. Where are you register? 

Natalie: Oh, I wouldn't gift. I don't know. 'em, I'm going, I'm going for my free, like cold chicken.

Natalie: And, um, I'm going to Dan and I'm going to pay the DJ to play sexy back when I walk in. So it's fine. 

Julia: If they have it at my sister's wedding, the DJ, we made all these requests. At course, this is Minnesota. So, you know, I guess asking for them to play in Vogue, um, was, uh, a ridiculous question because that DJ did not have in Vogue in their catalog.

Julia: And how do you not have in Vogue in your catalog? I don't 

Natalie: a mind bitches. I don't think I have to worry about that for sexy back. That is the Swan of the white people. That's the only time you get to feel sexy. Yeah. And 

Paige: Mr. Brightside by the killers, I feel like 

Julia: is also white, 

Paige: white person. 

Julia: Yeah, yes. A hundred percent, a hundred percent.

Natalie: Anything by the killers. Honestly, tell us your favorite white girl song in the comments. Mine is shut up and dance with me. I should. And I would build an entire romcom around that song. You should, how 

Julia: should see. So I get confused about what would be considered like a white person song, 

Natalie: because I there's nothing more white and basic than shut up and dance with me.

Natalie: Yeah. And walk the moon in general. Yeah, 

Julia: yeah, yeah. No, I get that. But sometimes because of like, because I have both cultural experiences, so sometimes I don't know, like, I don't know. 

Natalie: Well, I know what I will. What gimme more examples. Sure. I will put on the record as we 

Julia: wait for people in the. 

Natalie: All of my black coworkers were confused when I knew all the words to girls in the hood by Megan B stallion.

Natalie: Oh yes. That is a good song. okay. When I came rolling up into our job being like, fuck being good, I'm a bad bitch. And they're like, what is good morning, Natalie? It is, but we're nine 15. We're 

Julia: asking for white 

Natalie: basics. Well, so I thought I would give you the difference. Yeah. Okay. 

Julia: I understand what would be like on the side of like my other people.

Julia: Sure. Like that. I don't have a problem with, um, I feel like if you can do like a Palm 

Paige: or high school dance team to it, it is considered to be a white person song. Oh 

Natalie: yeah. Okay. So like jump around Alexis White people love, 

Julia: which is jump around very white girl 

Natalie: shout. Well who, who seems bubbl white people love shout.

Natalie: Um, Michael BU. Anything, Michael Bule, the white people, drip. Oh, okay. 

Julia: Okay, cool. I don't listen to him. So that's good to know. Um, shout is definitely, yeah. Yeah. White people love 

Natalie: basically like anything that allows white people to dance in their, oh, that song, 

Julia: that song, 

Natalie: that what's the song that the, you know, she's getting on 

Julia: the bus.

Julia: What is it called? 

Natalie: Journeys. 

Julia: Don't stop believing you journey. Journey. Don't stop believing. Don't stop. Yeah. Believe I feel like I can't go to carry Okie night without somebody thinking they can sing that 

Natalie: song. 18 white people just got horny just because I sing it onto the internet. 18 white people are like, oh, is that journey 

Julia: and one white adjacent person.

Natalie: one white adjacent person. But like they had to, like, they had to get on it. Um, so did you know, oh, sorry, go ahead. Can we talk about how chill Sophie is about her mother's sexuality? She's just like her friends come and she's like, what up? I found a detailed book of all of my mother's sexual info. Oh, I believe by 

Julia: Colby.

Julia: Colette. 

Natalie: Oh yeah. Oh, 

Paige: I gotta think of how that goes. I don't know. Starts 

Natalie: in MUEs and it could nail. That's great. Oh my God. 

Julia: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. 

Natalie: I know that song. Why haven't I made a living out of doing musical impressions? I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. Why haven't Ken, Jon, I need Ken, John to invite me onto one of his game shows.

Natalie: Yeah. Anyone will do. It's fine. If someone could get ahold of Dr. Ken for me. Um, but so she's reading aloud. Her mother is. Sexual exploits and her friends are like here for it. Yeah. And then like, it's such a stark contrast to we just watched now. And then, and Sam was like, my mom is wearing GOCO boots. Yeah.

Julia: You know what though? I think with, she does kind of towards the end, get to the point where she, cuz she doesn't yell that line at her mom. Right. Where it's like, I want my kids to know who 

Natalie: their dad is. Yeah. Rude. Right. Calm down. Dealt with that. 15, like 

Julia: a teenage girl does 

Natalie: open, very chill. She does well.

Natalie: And like she's really pissed off that Mery Shreve doesn't want her to get married and I'm like, I don't think you wanna get married. I think that this was all a plot. It was a to make your mom tell you who your dad is. Yeah. Yeah. Do you conspiracy, do you want marriage or do you want a wedding? Do you want a marriage or do you want your daddy?

Natalie: Yeah. Obvious father. If you had to choose one of them, who would you want to be? Your dad. Um, my dad or my dad E we could play it both. okay. Well, uh, bill scars guard, not in Thor, but in mama Mia, he looks like he's the one who can fuck the most. So he would be daddy and, um, Colin, sweet baby angel, Colin Furth, who has never done anything wrong ever.

Natalie: he can be my dad. yeah, cuz don't I apply that he's gay. He is gay and then the women, but he's like, 

Paige: it's so obvious. He's gay too. I remember watching it last night and I was like, oh right. 

Natalie: He's gay. And then the, the Aharite fountain scene happenss and I watched Colin Furth in every group scene because like I had never honed in on him before, but he's my favorite part of the movie.

Natalie: And in the like, very sliver of the left hand side is a shirtless Colin Furth, just like literally fire island. It awesome in the mountain. And I'm like, get it, Colin Furth. Thank you for committing to that. They didn't even put you in frame he was still going the time of his life 

Julia: while that was the whole point is to have this.

Julia: I feel like 

Paige: I would want Colin to be my dad as well, because I like to spend quality time with my dad. And I feel like I could spend good quality time with a dad. 

Julia: Who 

Natalie: is he? Hands up LGBTQ. 

Julia: And he's the most sincere about like the, the idea of being a dad and like being, doing all the dad things. 

Natalie: Yes. 

Julia: Like, but if I'm gonna marry somebody, it is Pierce Bron.

Julia: Me 

Paige: too. I agree. That's what I was gonna say. I want my daddy to be 

Julia: Pierce. Cause even now, like you've seen him recently. Right. Okay. 

Natalie: Why do we make well for a, why did we make Pierce? Brasin insane. Here's the thing that I never understand about. I 

Julia: do not think he's a good singer. That's on my 

Paige: list. 

Julia: So like, and that's probably synthesized too, you know, they edited that shit and it 

Natalie: happened in lay MIS too.

Natalie: Like they, with Russell crew, these Oscar Emmy winning actresses to be like, Amanda Siegfried blow your vocal chords out every day on the set of LA MIS. We want you to sing it live. Yeah. And then layer's like Sam, and then they're like Pierce, Brogan. Try it. He's. What happened? Who . Oh, it used to be so good.

Natalie: Like I was like, why didn't they hire me to be Sam right. It almost 

Paige: reminds me of that stepbrother scene when they're in the car. And he's like ripping the, the wive's ass for like, not being good at vocal lessons. I was like, oh, Pierce Brossman you were flat. Yeah. You're not giving what I needed to give.

Natalie: Not that at all. And it gets worse in the sequel to the point where I had erased in my memory that they make him seem like three times in the first one. Wait, Pierce presidents in the sequel. Uh, huh? Huh? Because they do flash forward, like they're in the present and then they do flashbacks. Got it. Got it.

Natalie: Got it. I'm gonna 

Julia: have to watch that great movie. Yeah. I'm gonna have to watch that tonight now. Cuz I'm curious. Um, interesting. 

Natalie: And so like yeah, like I was like, so when you need me call me, uh, so, uh, what you're like no, 

Julia: also the like little 

Paige: dialogues that they have to add into this song when they're on that boat.

Paige: Right. She's gonna love the dads and she's. And you're working at a bank. And your name 

Julia: is Harry. That's the worst line of the worst. You're working at 

Natalie: working at a bank, Andrew name. I do love the montage where she does get to do very daughterly things with all three of her dads. Yeah. But also what was the movie where some idiot like construed that as his daughter wanting to, oh, it was on critical role.

Natalie: Nevermind. 

Julia: or I thought you're 

Paige: gonna talk about 

Julia: shameless. 

Natalie: Oh yeah. On shameless where it like, oh, your daughter's just like trying to fuck you. And she's like, no, I'm just trying to spend quality time with you. You're like, uh, no. Yeah. Well, she has like little dates with all of her dads. Yeah. I don't, I love someone mentioned, take a chance on me and I can't listen to the true, like ABA version of take a chance on me.

Natalie: I have to do the very insecure. If you're all low, low, it's cute though. He flow, honey, I'm still free. And I have to, like, I have to start it that way. is she cute? And Rosie does such like a commitment to like trying to get bill scars guard to love her after like three hours. She's like, remember we were on the boat.

Natalie: mm-hmm he's like, she's like everyone else is shacking up. I don't know why you wouldn't. . I don't know why you wouldn't. Yeah, we 

Julia: all need our, we all need a happy ending. Interpret that. How you 

Paige: wish. And Colin first got his happy ending too. I remember in the middle of when they're on the boat and they, bill thinks he's like, oh, so you can, you know, you know, he is like, no, but I think I've heard dad.

Paige: And it's like this miscommunication thing. That was the moment where I like, oh yeah, I forgot. He's gay in this movie. He's I totally forgot about the boat 

Julia: miscommunication scene. Yeah, 

Natalie: yeah, yeah. And then like, oh gosh, I just love the abandon. And you, you really have to watch mama M here we go again, because at the end, Colin Furth gets to dance with like the kid that played younger version of him.

Natalie: Oh. And like that kid gives it as hard as Colin Furth gives it to that last montage moment in the glittery jumpsuits. And there's something Colin Furth is like this little bubble. Of joy where he's like, I'm going to give this the exact dramatic dedication that Naly gives to a board game night. and he's just like magical.

Natalie: And he's just like fire, islanding it just off of shot. You can't even really tell if it's him. But I was like, I know that torso that's column birth. He's having a fucking ball in that fountain. Like, ah, , that's how I would show up to every set. I'd be like, what are we doing today? Where do you want the water?

Natalie: Like just, ah, 

Julia: just give it all. Just thrash the water. 

Natalie: Oh, I'm like, gosh, he's asleep. He's never done anything wrong. He has never done anything wrong. 

Paige: I also think it's interesting that all of them were like totally down to walk her down the aisle and she was like, yeah. Sounds great. Sounds great. 

Natalie: Yeah. Who Donna, who.

Natalie: Donna who I was like, yeah, that is when I got angry. I was like, your mother has raised you. Single-handedly in a crumbling Gian hotel. Yes. She's a hotel air. And you invited these three morons to your wedding. And you're like, you're the most important people to me. 

Julia: see. And that's the other part that was really frustrating because first of all, why are we still buying into this construct that dad has to give away?

Julia: True. I 

Paige: had a girlfriend walk herself down the aisle and then her husband met her halfway and then they walked the rest of the way. Oh, that's true. At the beginning of the ceremony. Yeah. Super cute. 

Natalie: Uhoh but yeah, no parents. Me. No, you're not frozen yet. You will froze freeze in a moment and then you'll there.

Natalie: We, we go, there 

Julia: we go. How did you know that was gonna happen? 

Natalie: It happens every time, every time. Oh, okay. 

Julia: At least she's consistent Comcast man. I'm telling you so. 

Natalie: What were we talking about? Oh, Donna. We talking about the audacity of 

Paige: the men. Oh yeah. And daughter. 

Julia: So she, yeah. Cuz like you don't know these people, you don't know, 

Natalie: walk you down the aisle and give you away to another mediocre man.

Paige: And also she didn't even tell her husband, she, they invited them. Yeah. 

Natalie: I don't know if that's like me. I Dominic 

Paige: everything. Yeah. The second someone tells me gossip. I'm like, I will not tell anyone, but that doesn't count because my husband is the other half of my brain. So he will find out as well. 

Julia: That is literally a universal.

Julia: Understood that if you tell your friend who's married, assume the spouse knows. It's helping 

Paige: saying a lot of things to certain people where I'm like, oh, don't really want your partner to know. So I'm just not gonna tell you at 

Natalie: all. Brother-in-law because I talked to my sister before my brother-in-law gets home from work and then Zach will.

Natalie: Touch the front door and my sister will be like, guess what's wrong with Dan's body? like, guess what? She found on it today. And I'm like, you don't need to tell him. And she's like, it's really gross. And I'm gonna tell you and I'm like, like my brother-in-law has like intimate knowledge of my body. oh my 

Julia: gosh.

Julia: Oh, 

Paige: heck no, I couldn't hang 

Julia: like that's I'm very like you like you, Paige. I'm very mindful about what I tell my married friends. Cause I'm like, well, the partner's gonna know. I don't listen. I will tell your partner if I want them to know. Okay. 

Natalie: My brother-in-law very supportive of me and my passions. Well, that's nice.

Natalie: but oh shit. Where was, oh, I remember the exact moment. I decided that my father would not be walking me down. The the exact moment I was at someone else's wedding. This is before 

Julia: you realized that you don't wanna get married. Right? 

Natalie: This is when I thought I still had a shot. I was like in my mid twenties, like a cool 25.

Natalie: Yeah. 

Julia: We're still brainwashed to think that we should get married at 25. Yeah. 

Natalie: And I was in New Jersey and I was at someone else's wedding and I was watching her and her dad like cry, walk down the aisle. And I just remember turning to my friend and like whispering to him. Is it rude if I've just now discovered that I don't want my dad don't walk me down the aisle and he goes, no, that tracks for you.

Natalie: He goes, what are you gonna announce at the like, very beginning, like I'm doing this because I want to, and then just like March, like I was like problem away. Me. Like, I'm not giving any part of myself away. I'm not gonna bend and I'm gonna do everything the way I wanna do it. I'm like, yeah, those are my vows.

Natalie: I don't know. Yeah. Those 

Julia: aren't really vows though. Yeah, no, just warnings. Just warnings that's warnings. That's okay though. 

Natalie: That's okay. Yeah, but now I don't wanna get married because it's terrifying and expensive to get out of 

Julia: it's so expensive to get out of. That's the part that blows my mind and I have a, 

Natalie: can we, I have a whole podcast of the mistakes that I've made when it comes to men.

Natalie: So I can't put money. 

Julia: Can't afford it. Can't afford the risk. Like that's, that's the part that I'm just like, I would rather pay cuz the marriage certificate isn't what's expensive. No, it's the wedding. It's the, it's the party after. Right? So some people pay like gobs of money for that gobs, but the actual divorce itself.

Julia: No so expensive. And then you don't wanna 

Paige: weird year that you were still married, but you're divorced and you gotta figure out like how to do your taxes. 

Julia: Yes. Like all of it, it's just dumb. Like, I can barely figure out how to do my taxes now. So there's that. But like also like, and then if you changed your name yeah.

Julia: Fuck that. Yeah. And you have to go through all that. Like it's such a misogynistic system on how, and then there's like an order. You have to do it. And I've never changed my name. I'm making assumptions based on my friends who have gotten married, who've changed their names. I, so you can't go, can't do it here first.

Julia: You have to do it at this spot first. And you know, you're just like, 

Natalie: why, why do it, why change your name too long, new social, a number 

Julia: first, or like a new social security card. First you go, you have to go. And then everything else, which whose social security office is ever open. 

Natalie: Ever, I couldn't tell you where mine is.

Julia: Oh, I know where mine is. Cause I used to work for the government, but they're never open, you know, where spoke 

Natalie: the security card is. I know where my card is. I don't know where the office is. Oh, I thought you meant, like, 

Paige: you didn't know where your card is. I'm like, 

Natalie: I , I have like this doom folder and I can't remember why.

Natalie: Yeah. But, um, my passport, my birth certificate and my social security. Why did I have to go 

Julia: to why can't sing this to everybody on the internet right now? They dunno 

Natalie: what the doom folder looks like, but it's all in one folder. okay. All I'm like, and every once in a while, I'm like, where the fuck? It's that folder where my doom folder, where am I doing folder?

Natalie: Oh my God. And people are like, people get safe for these. And I'm like, what? . 

Julia: Yeah, yeah. 

Paige: Or they put it in a plastic bag and put it in the fridge or freezer. Cause if they're the tornado or a fire, your fridge will never. Burn or like, it'll stay what? Yeah. I have a ton of friends. Most of the friends that I met that are from the south.

Paige: I, so they have a ton of tornadoes, lots of fires, 

Julia: hurricanes. 

Paige: It's like sealed in there. It'll never burn in a fire. 

Julia: And like that makes sense that your fridge would be like, sort of fireproof 

Natalie: fish. Can I fit into my, I'm gonna see if I can fit into my fridge 

Julia: during a I can definitely. No, you'll suffocate.

Julia: There's not an affair. You'll 

Natalie: suffocate. Um, have tornadoes here. Wait, what? We have tornadoes here. I live in the 

Julia: Midwest. Oh yeah. You're there's a tornado season. Yeah. I can't no tornado. You lost me at season at season. Yeah. My cousins in the Midwest are like, I could never live in the California. All those earthquakes girl.

Julia: I can't tell you. The last time I experienced a major earthquake in 1989. We've had this conversation already. Tornado season, like you're guaranteed. A tornado was gonna happen. At some point during the spring, during 

Natalie: the spring. Yeah. But yeah, just me and my doom folder chilling out. I wish I could remember why all my documents had to be in the exact same place.

Natalie: Well, they say to 

Julia: do that, so that way, grab and go. If I have a bag, an 

Natalie: emergency, a think I was specifically doing something. I wonder if it was like my unemployment, 

Julia: Mario says that Indiana Jones survived a bomb by hiding in a fridge. That is true, but how did he not 

Natalie: run out? Harrison Ford did do that. He poke poked a hole and then like a snorkel I'm very 

Julia: terrified of losing air.

Julia: That world 

Paige: suffocating would be the 

Julia: worst 

Natalie: way to die. Mm-hmm , it's so violent. Um, it's so violent. 

Paige: Peru. I was like, take a deep breath just to make sure I could, oh my Lord. 

Julia: Right. 

Paige: I remember as a child, if a tornado was coming, I'd like put all my stuffed animals in the closet and be like, oh right guys. Oh, mom's making me go down to the basement.

Paige: I gotta go see you later. Oh. 

Julia: But 

Paige: nothing ever hit our house. There was a house or a town, like a couple towns away that got like really messed up, but oh, yikes. Yeah. No, just like north tornado 

Natalie: alley. 

Julia: I could, I would be unhinged if I lived somewhere like who, if 

Natalie: where the elements are trying to come, you live in a state that's worse 

Paige: for forest fire.

Julia: So. 

Natalie: Yeah, that is true. Oh shit. 

Julia: Your state is on fire they'll will they? I was gonna say, I'm not in a good way. It's not an issue, but they will eventually make it, if the climate keeps going in the way that it's going and they will eventually make it 

Natalie: to everyone's in denial about it. It's going, people are like, ah, California's 

Julia: not in denial.

Julia: We're trying to enact all kinds of legislation that everyone thinks is bullshit. Yeah. All that awesome. And people hate it. We want full electric cars though. I did hear a report on NPR cuz you know, I'm an NPR junkie the other day about how like the, in like the thing, whatever they need to make the electric cars, like they're mining the bottom of the C for it.

Julia: So then of course, oh God, my sister-in-law former sister-in-law is um, a Marine B biologist. So immediately it was like, I have to text her to find out like how bad is that for the Marine it's bad Marine 

Paige: like following nets on steroids. Yeah, 

Natalie: that sounds 

Julia: like we don't wanna go completely electric by 20 

Natalie: start driving.

Natalie: Maybe we should. I like that idea, Tyler, we, so I honestly think that we should, like here it is everybody. I think that we should create more factions with in America. And walkable neighborhoods and completely European it. And then like, actually build that train. That'll take me to Julia tomorrow. If I wanna go see Julia train, I want 

Julia: the bullet train, public 

Natalie: transportation option, and we just do the train.

Natalie: That's a good idea. Transportation thing. And then like, we just like shame the men who wanna master being on the public transportation. Yeah. I, uh, I love 

Julia: my name. That is the most integral part is shame. Yeah. Is shaming 

Natalie: them. Yeah. Yeah. That's what just, you, you know what, if I, it was tend to if I would get murdered, but if I had to take public transportation and some dude was masturbating on the train, I would just boo, like just boo, like those old man Muppets and the theater, just, we like boo.

Natalie: Yeah. And just like shame his penis and then ask him for compensation and be like $50. What are you have in your wallet? 

Paige: There is an hourly wage. I don't know if you were aware of that you have an 

Julia: hourly wage. So I do have my shame. Isn't 

Natalie: free, right? Here's my cause what if it's your kink? If I can tell you're enjoying it, I'm charging you double

Natalie: So just 

Paige: automatically a 

Julia: hundred is 100, just assume a 

Natalie: hundred right off the bat. so, yeah, so that I fixed it. I fixed everything everyone once again. Um, well, I think that's that then that's that? Uh, I, so this theater production, like the movie gets a lot of shit for just being a fluff. Like, it's just a, that's not what I said.

Natalie: I did not say that public shaming fixes everything. I said I did. it's in, 

Julia: it's in quotes. Okay. I would like it on 

Natalie: the record that that's not what I said. It's my logic and my girl, brain, everything though. Um, you're gonna hate this. So this the, so the theatrical production, like the movie just gets shit.

Natalie: All the time, because I don't know what it is about people who go to movies and people who visit the theater. They don't wanna have fun. I saying, quote, I'm very logical. I'm a Capricorn. Oh no cap. I'm a Capricorn. She's a Capricorn. If you stole my passport, you would know I was born on Christmas. IM gonna find that 

Paige: doom folder and steal your 

Natalie: identity and you know what?

Natalie: You're gonna be disappointed. 

Julia: cause she's not 

Paige: paying for her own student loans. Thanks Natalie. 

Natalie: Go ahead. Steal this identity. It's disappointing. It's very disappointing. 

Julia: Um, it's really not worth it to steal a millennials identity. It's really, we have more student debt than anybody also. 

Natalie: Why still my identity when gen Z already stole all of the people on Capitol hill identity for us.

Natalie: They did all that work and put out on TikTok for 

Julia: us. That's true. 

Paige: That was pretty impressive in a lot. 

Julia: Impressive. They're like their younger iation here 

Natalie: are their credit card numbers. Here are their home addresses. Here's where they work. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, y'all violent. And they're like, we're violent.

Julia: They're don't fuck with our rights. That's what I heard. I heard don't fuck with our rights. Like when all the dosing happened. Yeah. I was like, this is you saying don't fuck with me. Don't fuck with my rights. 

Natalie: So I hate that, like our general audiences that get to make decisions. Don't actually like to have fun.

Natalie: Like I go to mama M and I'm like, the ocean is so blue. Yeah. I wanna wear Meryl Streeps overalls. I do. Yeah. Yeah. I have been looking for a pair of Donna esque overall. My entire adulthood. Like they look comfy. Yeah. Somehow Meryl Streep looks sexy in them. Oh yeah. She is kind, she is 

Julia: sexy. She is sexy. And her makeup looks timeless in this.

Julia: Got a fresh like island, like, yeah. Oh yeah. Gorgeous. No, 

Natalie: that I love looks great. I love little things. So I love like pins and patches. Like God knows what I would do with those overalls, but it would be amazing. Mm-hmm and I too, like Donna, can't just like go onto a balcony and like, have it just be like, I'm on a balcony.

Natalie: No, I literally have to be like mama, here I go. I get, I have to be dramatic on a balcony. And I would just like us to get over this pattern where if it's something fun and it's something that the masses can actually. Get into mm-hmm and it's not just like lay, miss watching me. Watch Anne Hathaway, starve herself to death for 20 minutes.

Natalie: Then why doesn't it count as good 

Julia: well, that's the age old question, right? Like what constitutes quality art over fluff? 

Natalie: Like that's gonna that's good. Why did we decide that some of it was 

Julia: fluff because some people who are pretentious, how many are not, there has to be some 

Paige: type of scale. Everything has a 

Julia: spectrum to it.

Julia: Mm-hmm 

Natalie: the elite, the elite elite mm-hmm yeah, they 

Paige: wanted to money launder better. Yeah. Be 

Natalie: able who was 

Julia: it? I was listening to something the other day and they're like, Netflix, this is cam because you know, gray man was terrible. They spent 200 million on this movie and it's awful. And so that's why I think that Netflix is laundering money.

Julia: I forget who said that 

Natalie: green man? Isn't that the green man gray man. Mm-hmm I thought you said green man, which I, which is actually green book in my head. I thought you were talking about how Vego, how don't get me started. Don't get me started green book, someone dared to turn my Vego Mortenson into a white savior and I will never let it go.

Natalie: will we 

Julia: have issues with that movie for very different reasons, but I'm glad that you have issues with that movie. Of course, because don't even get me fucking started. We haven't got that kind of time. Vego 

Natalie: Mortenson is also a sweet baby angel who has never done anything wrong. He took all of his Lord of the rings money.

Natalie: All of it. All of it. And he moved himself. He became a forest tag is what happened. He moved himself into a remote forest and he only came out of his forest cave to go to poetry, slams and read his poetry. That's cute. Sweet baby angel. Who's never done anything wrong. Yeah. And then they turned him into a white savior.

Natalie: I 

Paige: wanna live some version of that life. The same, 

Natalie: same insane. Let's do it. Let's do it. Um, honestly, sometimes these lives are just us like planning our commune. Yeah. yeah, I'm down. Oh, going true. Everyone in the comments, if you would like to apply for the commune, please list yourself. I always 

Julia: say that. I 

Paige: always say my friends, like, you know, how cheap it beef, if we all just got a bunch of land and then we could just.

Paige: All the men build us stuff, and then we could wear dresses, like in Midsummer, in bars, we have 

Natalie: a garden. Yeah. Be still look how cute I'd look in space buns. exactly 

Julia: like, oh my God. You're just supporting the point the most. 

Natalie: Yeah. Yeah. Um, Midsummer slapped like good for her. I too. Would've done exactly what she did at the end.

Natalie: I love 

Julia: Midsummer 

Paige: so much. I think I'm gonna re-watch it. When I was going through mama M I put the M in the first thing that came up was Midsummer. And I was like, oh, I wanna watch it again. So good. And I'm so excited for don't worry, darling. Cause I know that there's some drama there too. I just love her so much.

Natalie: I love Florence pew. We will be saying, don't worry, darling. And we're doing still comfy on it. I made it fit the theme because I was like, I feel like we were conditioned into believing that the homemaker 50 style was a very comforting, was for women to try and, and emulate mm-hmm right, Mario, 

Julia: I'm gonna watch it because as we know, I cannot not with Harry styles.

Natalie: Harry styles is a new Elton John. You didn't hear it first because I say it every show . 

Julia: Wow. So like every time I see the trailer, I'm just like, this is so stressful, but I'm totally gonna maybe take a Val 

Paige: and see, are you not like a scary 

Julia: movie 

Natalie: gal? No, 

Julia: she cannot. I get too stressed out and then I can watching during the day, then I can that I do that sometimes.

Julia: And then I. Somehow my, in my head, I can twist it to make it where this could actually happen in real life. True. And it's, it's really irritating for people who are my friends, cuz then I'm like spiraling sometimes and it Handmaid's tale. I was like, 

Natalie: this is too close to made it that way. Read it. Don't y'all the book, the book I read, I never read it.

Natalie: I, the, after 

Julia: reading the book, I was like, well I can't. And then when they said they were doing the show, my literary friends, like, oh my God, they're doing the show is gonna be so amazing. It's like, I'm sorry. You all recovered after reading this in lit class sophomore year, I'm still recovering. 

Paige: I am.

Paige: Didn't read anything cool like that in my high school, even if they would've assigned it, I still probably wouldn't have read it. So 

Natalie: it's a real short one. Yeah. It's very. But still, oh, last week I convinced myself that a vampire from critical role could somehow still get me. I was afraid of Delilah. I wasn't afraid of Delilah Briarwood in campaign one when she was a pivotal villain.

Natalie: Yeah. But they're doing callbacks to her in the new campaign. Hundreds of years after this lady has died. Yeah. And I remember like telling Jules, I was like, Jules, I don't know what's happened, but I've somehow scared myself out of a, about a character that I've been hearing about for thousands of hours.

Natalie: And like, I don't think I can sleep. I don't like Delilah is humming for me. what 

Julia: I've never even seen 

Paige: the, so 

Julia: I'm gonna 

Natalie: have to look into it. Oh, it's a D and D string. D D. Yeah. Like every episode it's on YouTube. Every episode is four to five hours long. . Because D and D session. Yeah. Cause they're doing like, are you dead serious?

Natalie: Cause it's watching D and D live, but here's the thing. I was in a very toxic work environment. I was in an office that was killing me and I needed to take my head out of that. So I started, you needed to escapism. Yeah. So I started to watch these nerds playing D and D and then they all became my Teddy bears.

Natalie: Like I, so at GenCon over the weekend I ran into, I'm not gonna remember all three of his names. I know it was Jason Miller. 

Julia: You send to me in a message. 

Natalie: Jason Charles Miller. So he was a guest on like maybe two episodes in campaign one. And his little handler lady is trying to like get nerds to like divert from their shopping mm-hmm to talk to him and like, people are just ignoring him, ignoring her.

Natalie: So finally, I went, Jason, I know who you are. I've watched critical role. And I sat down and talked to him and I told him, I was like, he goes, so you started critical role from the beginning I go, I did, um, my soul was dying. I go, and now I need Matthew Mercers, uh, voice to sleep sometimes if it's been a particularly high anxiety day.

Natalie: And Jason, if you're listening, don't forget. You told me that you were gonna tell Matt that next, this week, when you ran into it, We cause you're working status update on that then. Yeah. You're working together this week. I would like Matt to know that he is the barrier between me and sleep yeah. he is the, he is the key to the lock he is.

Natalie: And so I got to meet Jason, but I got to stare at the back of the heads of two of my favorite D and D streamers because I ended up at the same bar as them. And I wanna approach the table because there were too many people. So I just stood there like this

Natalie: And then the waitress caught me and I was like, nevermind. it'll just go it's fine's fine. No need to stare. We're all good here. And then I talked about the fact that they were in the same. I was like, I can't believe that they're in the same bar. I knew what Bria was here. Cuz I saw on Instagram and I told myself that I was gonna get to see her, but I didn't think it would be because I was in the Western like oh my God, you had like a whole experience.

Natalie: I had a whole meltdown and luckily the people that my friend Natalie allowed me to meet and hanging out with, they were into it and I was like, thank you for still being open to be my friend, even though I'm having a meltdown. you like sobbing? No, I wasn't crying yet. Yeah. But like to know that you were just.

Natalie: Several feet away, away from greatness. I can't do it. If I admire you, I feel like it's my job to tell you because this world is so cruel. Yeah. Then I feel like no one tells you because they think that you're like too cool to know that people admire you. So then I'm the person who like walks up to you and is like, hi, hi, it's me.

Natalie: Naly um, when you DM, Dungeons and dragons as a woman of color, and you remind the nerd boys that D and D Canon should be fun. My heart sore, because they're so mean when you want to laugh. They're so mean when you want to giggle about something Aw. And then just like run 

Julia: away into the night. Yeah.

Julia: Dissipate. They'll never see me again. 

Natalie: Dissipate. I have a 

Julia: question to bring us back to our topic of things. Sure. Which character would you be in mama? M. Donna. 

Natalie: I used to think that I was Tanya. Um, but I don't wanna get married three times. So now I would like to be Donna without a child, Donna, but I gave the baby away.

Natalie: Donna, that 

Paige: is an alternate 

Julia: universe. 

Natalie: And I still just live on that giant hotel on the cliff that no one can find me. 

Paige: I think I resonate the most with Sophie, even though I know who my father is, I do have per pat paternal certainty. So I guess that's different, but I did get married at 20 and I am a little off my rock or at times, so I feel like it has 

Natalie: to be her.

Natalie: Okay. The way, the way that, like someone mentioned that, um, lay all your love on me was their favorite song and the way that they dramatically like Amanda Siegfried, like walking on that beach with her hair blowing mm-hmm and she like. Means it when she's like, don't go wasting. I'm like, damn girl. Oh yeah.

Natalie: Where's her costume percent. And then they have sex on the beach in front of all of his friends. Yeah. Okay. 

Paige: Cool man. Yeah, man. Looks cool. I was gonna say, I also had written down that sky. Her husband was or fiance, boyfriend, fiance partner. Yeah. Person was totally cool with just getting married 

Julia: because she wanted to.

Natalie: Yeah. Which I don't know. I don't know how I feel about it because like, I just feel like married things and like having kid things and like, it's not like picking chilis to go to dinner. It's not like, just like whatever you want. Like it's like, no, yeah, we're gonna sign a contract. That's like very hard to get out of.

Natalie: And my mother is going to have to run up a cliff. So if we're gonna do it, let's do it. And I will be on a donkey. 

Julia: Yeah. And it will be on a donkey. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like, um, again, it lends itself to that whole like, oh, you know, this is what girls are supposed to want. And mm-hmm, , you know, men are just there kind of concept about marriage.

Julia: Well, and I appreciate Pierce Harry for being like, should she really be getting married? Yeah. He was like, um, 

Natalie: about that mm-hmm but I also. Like for whatever reason, Donna, just like, pretended like as Sophie got older, she would just like, forget that children have fathers or something. So I understood that like getting married and doing it correctly became Sophie's Teddy bear.

Natalie: Yeah. She's like, I can do it correctly. Like I can do the whole thing. And I do wanna point 

Julia: out for people who are listening to the replay and not watching us on video, Natalie put correctly in air quotes. 

Natalie: Yeah, I did. I thought I made my sarcastic voice correctly.

Natalie: Ly. Yeah. Um, so anyways, um, it became like her Teddy bear. Yeah. And so like I get it because I think that Donna, what you find out from like mama Mia, here we go again. She was probably 20. Around, like they had just graduated college. So like, so like 

Julia: 22. So like 

Natalie: still young. I'm sorry. Maybe they had, they graduate from something there's a whole scene about it.

Natalie: So she's like around that 18, 19, you know, she's in that moron age where you like, get like pregnant and you don't know who the father is and you just like roll with it also 

Paige: like DNA tests. No one was like, I like a DNA 

Julia: test. Yeah. They were all like, we don't need to 

Paige: find out. It's like, I'd like to 

Natalie: get a genome sequenced please.

Natalie: No, no one wanted to know if they were 100% that bitch yeah, no one wanted 

Julia: finding 30, 30, 30 3%. That, yeah, that 33% was 30, 30 for me again. Did we already talk about this? I can't imagine a group of men being okay with the idea of like, sure. We'll all be your dad like that, just to me was like, there's. Do I not know 

Natalie: the right men.

Natalie: It's very unrealistic. Feel like pride would get in the way. I feel like, like, I just feel like it's not, cause like, remember in the eighties, when we all watched like three men and a little lady or like three men and a baby mm-hmm little lady is the sequel, the sequel. Yeah. Tom it's like, they split it because they were three idiots who got a baby dumped onto them.

Natalie: Right. And they didn't know how to adult. So they were like, I guess we're all gonna have to do this. Um, but like in this situation, like at no point, did anyone feel tricked? And I'm like, did you guys forget that you were tricked? Like, this 

Paige: is a trick there. You thought that Donna invited you surprised Donna.

Paige: Yeah. 

Julia: Why would she? Yeah. Cause that's how else they would. They wouldn't probably, they probably wouldn't have come otherwise if it wasn't Donna inviting 

Paige: them. You know what I would've done. I wouldn't have even mentioned if I was Sophia. I wouldn't have even mentioned my mom. Cuz how do you know they ended on such good terms?

Paige: I would've been like you have won a free vacation mm-hmm to this small Greek island and like here's a voucher. Yeah. 

Julia: Because what if they're like Donna F her, I ain't going because as we learned, Harry came back for her and she was running off with one of the other ones and he was so disappointed. 

Natalie: Yeah.

Natalie: I bill I think it was bill . I think she was. And you know what? Good honor, because like I choose to heal after breakups with like a cry in the showering in like a Snickers bar and then I'm over it. But if she wanted to get on a B on a boat with a scars guard, More power to her. Yes, we have. We have 

Julia: very well established who, great scars guard as well.

Julia: None of us will ever turn down a scars guard, not, 

Natalie: not a one, even 

Julia: been a who doesn't wanna just join 

Paige: the, a great lineage, honestly, 

Natalie: honestly, great lineage, 

Julia: you know, where we 

Paige: right into that family 

Julia: a hundred percent. 

Natalie: And I don't like, and then like, there's just like adorable little column fur and he's just so precious.

Natalie: They think for their date, they do the Napoleon, uh, the, the Waterloo song for them. It's great. yeah. Yeah. He 

Julia: kind of has like, um, like what, like what a girl wants vibes. Yes. Without having to 

Natalie: stick up his ass. I love what a girl wants. Me too, girl. I love, I love Colin birth. There is just something. Like my critical role people that is so huggable about co you just like wanna walk up and like frame his face mm-hmm with your hands.

Natalie: Yeah. That's why I want him to do my dad and just like, make him put his forehead on your forehead. Yeah. While you just stand here awkwardly. Yeah. And then like you just like wanna whisper to him a 

Julia: secret, like I, are we all frozen, frozen, 

Natalie: frozen? No, it's just you. No, it's just, you 

Paige: you'll come back

Natalie: friends. Sorry about all of the, and you just like, you wanna whisper calling for the secret cuz you know, it would be safe with him and he said, okay, have you seen him in a single man? Mm-hmm Hmm. I, since I ever have 

Julia: with Matthew. Good. It's so good. Oh, I think it's Matthew. Good. Hold on. 

Paige: Maybe I will watch it then.

Paige: I'm pretty sure it's Matthew. Good. Let me add that to my ever running list of movies. Introducing. 

Julia: Seriously? Yes, Matthew. Good. They play, um, partners and there's a tragedy and it's beautiful. It's Tom Ford, Tom Ford. The fashion designer, I think is the 

Natalie: director. I don't even remember this movie coming 

Julia: out like to writer Ford.

Julia: Tom Ford was a writer too, but he directed it. Yeah, he directed it. Oh, 

Paige: also chat. Who do you think you'd be in mam? I wanna know if other people what they would 

Natalie: pick, where are all my Tanya's 

Julia: at? I'd be Tanya. I think I'd be really KAA. And the other friend, what was her name? Rosie. Rosie. Rosie. Yeah. I'd be a mix of the two cuz you know, I I'm like a writer, right?

Julia: Like. . 

Natalie: But 

Julia: I also, I think had I not ended up being a Donna in real life, I would've had multiple marriages, maybe I, or at least multiple partners who, you know, left me wealthy at the end of our relationship. 

Natalie: I think I have been the rosy in my like, like group of friends. I've been the lady who has just been like staring at you from a table to be like, I mean, no one else is walking up to you.

Julia: that's not exactly a great point, Natalie. 

Natalie: I just don't. No one else is coming up to you. So let's hook up out of desperation. 

Julia: Oh my God. I know. That's why I me and said that I would've 

Natalie: like past tense. Bye. That's why I used the past tense. I love that son. Take a chance on me, honey. I'm still free. Take a chance on me.

Natalie: Listen, if you got need to know place to go, she's great. I love Rosie. And like when Donna's crying in the bathroom and they sing her chick Aquita oh 

Paige: yeah. That's so cute. I think of my two friends where I'm like, I wonder if they would ever sing to me and then I'm like, and do I want them to sing to me though?

Natalie: Honestly, I wish my friends would sing to me more. This is my request. well, now that I know 

Julia: that I'll change your voice memos every day in morning, or that I'll sing. Do you want a song or do you want me to just sing to you? What I'm doing? 

Natalie: Any and all of it. I can't get, I am like one of those undiagnosed ADHD people.

Natalie: Who's like, I love my lavender role or yeah. It's gonna make me calm. Like

Natalie: like, it's always like blues clues up in this house. Well, blues clues did raise us. Yeah. And like, Penelope hates it. My cat, she hates blues. Blues. No, she hates singing. She hates music. She hates joy. Typical text. I fully believe that she very much regrets that she walked up to me during that lightning storm, because she's like that bitch was quiet and crying when I walked up to her and then I got into her house and it's disco fever all day long.

Natalie: Is that how you got Penelope? Mm-hmm I didn't Penelope used what you were 

Paige: just saying. You would use on a man. 

Natalie: All one else. Is else going up to you? Yeah. Yeah. Um, I was crying in my friend's parking lot because he was moving and we had just had a, like our last scary movie night or whatever, before he moved, it was like two or 3:00 AM.

Natalie: There was a heat lightning storm and I stopped to like, look at the lightning and she came in, she sat on my foot. She just like looked up at me and I was like, oh no. What do you do when a kit sits on your foot? Yeah, during a lightning storm. And she followed me around and she like walked over to like a lamp.

Natalie: So I could like check her out. And she was pretty healthy. She has like a scar on her nose. Oh. From something that scratched her. And then like, my friend was no help. I texted him. I was like, what do I do with this cat? It's bonded with me. And he's like, I don't know. It's 3:00 AM. Do what you do or go the cat, do what you're gonna do.

Natalie: He's like, I'm going to bed. And then I went, so then she watched me as I drove off. Oh, that's the worst. And you abandoned her. So that was a Thursday night. All Friday. I didn't have any cat stuff at home. I was a single lady, no pets. And I was like, I'm not going to Walmart at 3:00 AM. I'm not doing it. and not happening.

Natalie: So I drove off, but then I cried for an entire Friday. Aw. So then he went back out on a Saturday, saw her and nabbed her for me. Aw. 

Julia: I'm glad he redeemed 

Natalie: himself. Yeah. Like God. Yeah. You know what, like. Country men. If someone is literally texting you, the, I don't know what to do in this situation thing. They are legitimately asking you their for advice, right?

Natalie: They are an undiagnosed ADHD person who is now hyperfocused on a kitten. They found in your parking lot. yeah. And they need you to tell them that it's okay to go home. I ask for 

Paige: people's advice a lot. What does that mean? I don't know. 

Julia: I mean, it's I like to crowdsource, I love crowdsourcing. Cause then I use all that information to form my own decision.

Natalie: So don't just tell them, like, I don't have time for this. I'm going to bed. Like that's not great. You are the only person that they owe is awake because you are the only person who. You literally just left their home yeah. Right. And I just helped you move, right? Yeah. You could do is give me some feedback and by help you move, I mean that, I talk to you while you put things into boxes, because I'm not doing that.

Natalie: Like, that is the support that I want. I'm not this princess by I'm, I'm just cute. While you have to do things, I'm just cute. But my other guy, your emotional support cuteness. Right? My other guy, friend, who also cannot sleep, he told me he's like, you're about to take a nine year old's cat. Like that cat belongs to someone.

Natalie: And I was like, I 

Julia: mean, if it's living in a parking lot for the last two days, is it really though? Does it 

Natalie: believe? I believe I said nine year olds should be more responsible for their things.

Julia: Gentleman. This is how Natalie has confirmed. She should not have children. 

Natalie: This is how I truly, right. This is how I truly feel about children. I'm like, they should be more responsible about their things. Oh, she was. But she was like, so. If anyone has seen my cat on Instagram, she has like a full coat. Yeah.

Natalie: Like she is like a literal princess diva of a goddess of a cat. But when I got her, all of her hair was very short and wiry and she had this cut along her nose and the only flue part of her was her tail. Yeah. So I thought that she was gonna just gonna be like this abomination of a cat. like just a real short haired cat with this like feather boa of a tail.

Natalie: But we got some food into her and some water and some like love and affection. And we got her fle treated and she's just like poofed. Yeah. Like I can hold. People think that she's like the fattest cat in the world, but I can just like hold her in the Palm of my hand. Cuz it's literal fur. 

Julia: Yeah. Cuz she's very lean.

Julia: It's all her fur mm-hmm uh, final question. Are you still comfy with 

Natalie: mama Mia?

Natalie: You know what? I love a good scam. Yeah. Like the con worked out, she got three rich dads. What more could we ask for? Oh, serious, fucking 

Julia: serious. Yeah. And they all wanna 

Natalie: help. They all wanna help because they, hello. A white man Guild. Like not sign me 

Julia: up, sign me. How many else pay my rent for a year and see what I can do creatively.

Julia: If I don't have to worry about feeding myself and my, 

Natalie: the housing myself and Paige, you brought up a good point too. No one outwardly shamed. Donna. That's what I say. That's 

Paige: why think I'm still 

Natalie: comfy. Yeah. Yeah. She assumed people were shaming 

Julia: her. Yes. Which is very typical. We do something that we're 

Natalie: like, Ooh, maybe 

Paige: not the best decision then you're like now.

Paige: Associates 

Julia: my identity with like this one period of time 

Paige: or like this one thing that I did. And I think the fact that like, everyone was just like, okay, like even when they were reading a diary, they were like.dot do 

Julia: friend were like, you stinky 

Natalie: bird. Yeah. 

Paige: That's not shaming. That's like, get it girl, get it's like the opposite of shaming support.

Paige: So I think one, I think I am still comfy, just simply off of the lack of shaming of 

Natalie: the second promiscuity. And when Sophie had that like really ugly moment, I think she was literally just like projecting back to Donna what Donna's and her monologue was. Yeah. And that's why it was so jarring. Yeah. Yeah.

Natalie: Yeah. Cuz 

Julia: society does do a really good job. Like women are not allowed to have more multiple partners. Mm-hmm women aren't allowed to, you know, understand their sexuality in any way, shape or form at all. And here comes Donna and she's like, I got this shit handled 

Natalie: and I don't need you. Right. They cock this dolphin, uh, concrete decoration on my floor, on my own.

Julia: Fuck you. Where were you when it cracked? Not here. Not here. Yeah. Yeah. And where 

Paige: were you for? 20 years? 

Natalie: Not here. Yeah. And I can tell you what Pierce Spross wasn't doing and it wasn't learning how to sing. They really don't care if men can sing in these movies. 

Julia: But do you remember though, Russell Crow got panned because he couldn't sing.

Julia: Like, that was like a thing. People like, nobody cared about the rest of the, like everyone just honed in 

Natalie: on Russell, not being able to sing. So I'm talking about the movie creator. So here's the thing. I get it. Russell Crowe, like gladiator. I still do just like turn to a crowd and be like, are you not entertained?

Natalie: like, I get it? Russell Crowe. You really feel like is a big money maker draw. Yeah. But you can't cast him. As the second fucking protagonist. Yeah. Yeah. In lay MIS. Yeah. To a huge 

Julia: Jackman. Yeah. Yeah. Who is like king theta, right? No one 

Paige: can follow him, honestly, 

Natalie: honestly. And why not just do 

Julia: what they did 50 years ago?

Julia: 60 years ago, where they just hire the same VO vocal actor to sing everyone's parts. right. Yeah. Like if you're gonna cast somebody who can't sing then double where's our vocal actor, 

Natalie: talk to them. Amanda. Seari let the cat out bag out of the bag that they didn't double miss at all. They made them sing, live on set.

Natalie: Yeah. Really? And it like roached her voice. Yeah. And now she's like really disappointed because I mean, what it ended up doing was like teaching her a lot about vocal stamina and how you build that back. But she didn't build it back enough in time to like, get. Glenda in the wicked movie, right? Oh no. And she's like, I've always wanted to be Golinda, but I bet 

Paige: that really helped her in her dropout feature, being Elizabeth Holmes, where she kind of has like good, deeper voice, like that probably was like a little helpful to have developed that 

Natalie: RA.

Natalie: Yeah. But I couldn't imagine, like knowing how much you have to cut and then reset. And then it's like, what line of the song were we on? And it's like, well, and that's, 

Julia: that's the thing about stage versus movie, right? Mm-hmm like stage acting is so different than screen acting. And so when, you know, I learned of that too.

Julia: I just had this moment of like singing. Like I have, not that I don't have respect for fucking screen actors. Like, that's not what I'm saying. Right? Yeah. But stage acting is so much more demanding and so much more intense. So less room for. Flaws mm-hmm . So to expect your cast, to be able to sing all the way through live every 

Natalie: time on a movie set on a 

Julia: movie set like that to me is like, are you 

Natalie: a sadist?

Natalie: Like, what are you doing? Melt with water? You love pain. Yeah. Like 

Julia: it's so insane to me. And then for it's so insane to 

Natalie: me. And really that movie went down in flames because of Russell Crow. And it's like, so here you thought, well, we'll make Russell Crowe do it. It'll be great. And he's saying like this, oh, hello.

Natalie: Like, that's how he is saying million iron movie. And you Jack. 

Julia: Yeah, exactly. It's saying then you have like the Hugh of the world. And then I don't know, you have Anne, so we're gonna have to do a whole separate lane this episode. That's what we're finding out 

Natalie: right now. Like you have Anne Hathaway lane in a ditch going a dream to dream of time gone by.

Natalie: Yeah. And then like Russell Crowe was like, you there. You prisoner, like that's how he's saying the entire movie 

Julia: yeah, yeah. Doing it for me was inappropriate. Yeah. And you know, that's definitely a thing we're gonna get into with me. 

Natalie: I do lay miss do LA miss, because that will be so much fun. Apparently I have a lot of feelings I'm in the Nicole 

Julia: panel.

Natalie: We're gonna have to watch lay miss. And it's three hours. It is show not being able to let it go. Well, let's go. Cause eventually reason we'll do Midsummer. We'll 

Julia: do. How about we do? Okay. Listen. How about we do lay miss when it's cold, because then it's like, you can sit down for three 

Natalie: hours because it was a Christmas release.

Natalie: I remember going on Christmas to see it in the movie theater. My poor brother-in-law had to sit in between me and my sister as we quietly and made fun of Russell's show. 

Julia: Yeah. Yeah. 

Natalie: You know what? It's like to be crying, but making fun of Russell 

Julia: pro. Yeah. I mean my best friend and I went and saw it together and we were both just like.

Julia: How do we resolve how we feel right now? 

Natalie: my brother-in-law that, that Christmas break had to see so many movies with my sister and I, and he thought he was safe. No, with the remake of red Dawn, he's like, there's no way that they will quietly weep during this movie. There's and then something happened, the good looking one died or something.

Natalie: And 

Julia: my sister like 

Paige: to like shoot out in the apartment 

Natalie: and he's like, why red Don? Why? Why 

Julia: okay, Natalie? Yes. First we're gonna let Paige tell everybody where they can find her and her show and what's coming up on her show. 

Paige: Yes. So you can find me on Instagram at, for folk sake podcast. And I stream on everywhere.

Paige: You listen to your podcast. So like Spotify, apple, those are like the two I. Only check. 

Julia: Those are the two that's are always the most. I mean, I feel like those are the bigger 

Paige: two anyway. Always are the ones I think breaker, I have like a, a less than 1% of my listeners are on breaker. Like Stitcher. That's fine though.

Paige: We have a lot of stuff coming up with like women's health and sexual wellness and like, um, like taking care of your womanhood. Yeah. So I'm yeah, I'm super excited. That's like the next couple episodes. And then yeah, I got a great catalog 

Natalie: already, too, so. Awesome. Thank you. Thank you for supplementing my poor Midwestern sexual education.

Natalie: yeah, of 

Paige: course. Well, thank you for having me guys. This was super fun. I love working. 

Julia: Yeah. We're super thrilled that you're here. We love when you show up to our shows, it's always a joy to have you around Natalie. Are you wanna plug some stuff and then I'll plug the rest of it. Sure. And then also tell 

Natalie: everybody my name is Aline Catona.

Natalie: I am your host of two. All the men I've tolerated before you can find me on Instagram at men. I've tolerated pod, no punctuation. um, last week, God, it through I, I was doing so well. Like I really want to cut all of these together to try and get myself onto ads. I really feel like I could make a career out of it.

Natalie: So go ahead. Keep talking. Last Thursday, our topic was misogyny crosses cultures. Yes. This Thursday. It's women and their relationship to their finances and we're calling it money, mental Olympics, and it's with Trina Ross who has been on the podcast before. Um, she helped me process all of the feelings that you have when you're unemployed, and then you have to go to the hell.

Natalie: That is a nine to five. Um, and we drop every Thursday and tomorrow we'll be talking about one tree hill and the final four episodes on Instagram, on the men I've tolerated pod, Instagram. Have I, I'm not gonna put you on the spot to be like, have you watched them yet? 

Julia: oh, it's really hard not to talk about it with you in between our shows because, uh, damn.

Julia: Yeah. Um, friends, you know me, I'm your host of pop culture makes me jealous, Julia Washington. You can find us wherever you find your podcasts. We are also on Instagram. Pop culture makes me jealous. We are, after one tree hill is done this week, we 

Natalie: will be doing 

Julia: the new, a league of their own. That will be on Amazon prime.

Julia: That is be, that is the, uh, 

Natalie: tive Paul, congratulations to Abby Jacobson on her engagement. Yes. Yes. I know that she's tuning in. 

Julia: Yes, she is. And we're gonna cover your new show. So starting next week league of their own, their prime mm-hmm um, you can let's see what else do we have to tell everybody every other Monday, 

Natalie: same piece.

Natalie: Olivia new and John, 

Julia: I that's the, yep. Thank you for that. I had a note to bring up Olivia Newton, John, so we could do a moment for her. And if there was a favorite song or role that she did, 

Natalie: I used to sing. Yeah. I used to sing the entire grace soundtrack to all of my stuffed animals. It's what convinced me that I could, in fact.

Natalie: And then I found out when I was 17, that that was not true, but I would literally line them all up and do the entire show for them. It was the first PG 13 movie. My aunt snuck me to get to see . Yeah. Lady. No. Which by the way, hopelessly devoted to you, not in the stage production. Yeah. I did know all, 

Julia: yeah, I did know that.

Julia: It's interesting. A lot of what changes happened from some of the earlier productions, like west side stories got a bunch of changes too. Like the steel Steven Spielberg one, um, actually is more true, I think in terms of like order, uh, cuz cool's in the first act, not the second act and in the one from 1961 cools and the second act, but that's not the point.

Julia: The point is, is Olivia Newton. John, thank you for bringing joy to our lives and the music we loved from the seventies and eighties that thank you for in Xou and everything that you brought to the creative culture. That is performance. We will miss you. Friends get your titties checked because it is very important.

Julia: John Travolta has now lost two women. He loves desperately to breast cancer. Yeah. I wish my 

Natalie: titties are wearing tolerat 

Julia: or merch. Yes they are. And I was surprised you didn't plug that. So I'm gonna plug both of our merchs right now. I forgot until you brought up titties that's okay. Friends, if you are team Toor hit up the team tolerated Shopify.

Julia: It is in Natalie's Lincoln bio in her Instagram and get your team Toor gear ASAP because you need to know second except and model link. We also have me for pop culture makes me jealous. Hit that merch up. BAA, Mer merch 

Natalie: merch come. We will be back 

Julia: in two weeks with another topic TBD. We don't know what it is yet.

Julia: We don't know what it is yet, but we will see you all tomorrow on Instagram for one tree hill friends. Thank you for tuning in. We're always super grateful. You're here until next time we will see you in the 

Natalie: DMS. Stay cozy. Stay Comy.

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• Season 1 31
• Season 2 25
• Season 3 25
• Season 4 30
• Season 5 21
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