Grease | 31

Show Notes:

Pop Culture Makes Me Jealous and To All the Men I've Tolerated Before team up to bring you Still Comfy? a show that examines pop culture properties and whether or not Julia Washington and Natalie Katona are still comfy with them.

In this episode, the pair discuss the 1978 film, Grease starring John Travolta and Oliva Newton John.

This episode originally aired on August 22, 2022.

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Transcript:

Natalie: BA BA BA BA bam, BA bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. Bam. Why don't we have pink ladies jackets? I 

Julia: don't know. Uh, you know what? I was a pink lady one year for Halloween. Do they still, but lady jackets, they still make em. Yeah, but then when we, when I was rewatching, uh, Rizzo says something to about Sandy she's too pure to be pink.

Julia: And I was like, Ooh, that actually might be me. 

Natalie: not me. Hi, everyone. It's still comfy with Nat and Jules. I'm NAB Catona. You're a host of two. All the men I've tolerated before you're on my YouTube sh channel. And if you are on our YouTube channel, you need to leave a comment because we're using a third party, um, system.

Natalie: And we won't know that you're here, unless you say hello, Jules, 

Julia: take it. Hello friends. I'm Julia Washington. Your host of pop culture makes me jealous where we analyze pop culture through the lens of race or gender, and sometimes both. And to mirror what Natalie said, please tell us you're here. And if you're watching the replay on YouTube, You can still comment in real time.

Julia: The questions you can still answer the questions because we'll probably go back and read them and respond to you. Mostly cause YouTube to do. Yeah. Well and YouTube notifies us when they're. Yeah, it 

Natalie: gives us an email. Mm-hmm it's like, Hey lady, someone likes you. And I'm like, really? They do really? 

Julia: You like me?

Julia: You like me like 

Natalie: me? Um, we will be discussing I didn't 1977. Is that when the 78 78 you were close, we will be discussing the musical movie. 1978, Greece starting Olivia Newton, John and John Travolta. what, how did I just say his name? I said it, like he said, ID men's name. where I was just 

Julia: like, this is his name.

Julia: So my dad used to call him John Volta when we were growing up. That's why I chuckled. Cause that's how I makes sense. Heard his name growing up. 

Natalie: Oh yeah. Mm-hmm um, I think he falls into my category of, they really don't care if the man can sing on these musical movies, I was like, I was watching it. I was like, can John triple 10?

Natalie: Not sing. Was I lied to ? 

Julia: I don't know. I'm just so used to it that I have no opinion. Right. 

Natalie: It's like you just remember that he was able to sing and that it was sexy and he was hot. 

Julia: Um, well he was hot in those tight little pants. When I was looking at him this time, I was like, in his little short pants, I would 100% send a drink, send the drink.

Julia: He sent me back and be like, no, thank you, sir. I'm not interested. 

Natalie: Right. But would you, yeah, 

Julia: I'm just gonna, however Nicki could send over all the drinks. 

Natalie: Ew. okay. This brings me to my first point. This has never, um, taken my focus off of the movie before, because I was a child, but this go around, I couldn't not notice that they were all 40.

Natalie: And then I looked up their actual ages, uh, and they were all in their early thirties, late twenties. And I was like, but you all look like you're 47. 

Julia: Yeah. Olivia Newton. John was 31, I believe. Yeah. Yeah. Rizzo 

Natalie: was 33. So I would like this to count as my audition. For the next time we're doing 

Julia: Greece. Yeah.

Julia: That's the thing that I'm so confused about when it comes to Hollywood, because on the one hand we have people who probably should be playing parents of pre-teens being teenagers. Right. And then on the other hand, we have people who are way too young to be playing high school kids playing high. Like there's, there's no like happy, true, happy middle.

Julia: Where is like, cause even with like 9 0 2, 1 oh, like Tori spelling was like 15, 16, but the rest of the cast was not no. And same with like my soul called life. Like 

Natalie: everyone was that we covered all season one, four, they're all in their twenties except for James Lafferty. 

Julia: Yeah. And I understand to an extent, because the rules are different when you have, you know, actors under 18 and like how much work they can actually do with that said.

Julia: you have now convinced me that I could play a high school student 

Natalie: and I will there worst things I could do. 

Julia: And to there's my addition, add to this. When I was moving my child into college, this last weekend, we were asked multiple times, which one of you is moving in? Mm-hmm . So now I'm really convinced I will happily play a college stage or a senior in high school.

Natalie: What high school role do you wanna take on? Cuz I've already decided Rizzo. I I'll be Sandy. You want me to Sandy? I would. I totally. You Sandy, any movie, but you know, if you wanna be Sandy, hold on. Oh, are we re 

Julia: referencing this particular movie or like, 

Natalie: it can be in general. It can be anyone. Ooh. Ooh. 

Julia: That's a bigger question.

Julia: That's harder to answer. That's harder to answer, Natalie. I have to think about that a little bit deeper

Julia: television shows that take place in high school that I would love to be on gossip girl, 

Natalie: the reboot Uhhuh but I'd 

Julia: wanna be an adult in that one. Cuz I find Luke Kirby attractive. So I'd wanna have an excuse to make out with him. I know we've I know your opinions. You've judged me. It's fine. 

Natalie: Um, you judged you.

Natalie: I on so many men this episode already, I know we're 

Julia: like five minutes in. 

Natalie: I don't wanna HKI from KKI. I don't care if it's like a hallmark card

Julia: I'd have to, you know what I gotta get back to on that answer cuz there that's a big question. 

Natalie: Yeah. Okay. All right. So. My actual first question was cuz you know, we open up to love as a man spin new thing and they're jumping around in the ocean. Yeah. They're not naked or making out. They've just like spent a summer looking at one another on the beach, I guess.

Julia: I mean that's romantic too. It 

Natalie: is romantic. And I wondered, I was like, I wonder if Danny was like happy for the break from his like greaser lifestyle and having to be the leader of his dumb ass friends. I mean, 

Julia: if that's not a rhetorical question, I'm gonna answer it because I think he was happy. I think he was.

Julia: And I think it's validated when he's so excited to see Sandy when she comes back, when they're at the football game. Mm-hmm and it's not just a, oh, I'm so happy to see you because I also love you. It's like this whole rush of memories of not having to be this macho machismo gross guy. Like she let him be who he really is.

Natalie: Um, over last week or the weekend, I was on the phone with my friend and I did say out loud, I just don't think anyone understands what it's like and how exhausting it is to be the coolest person that you know. And then her little girl who had just gone to the second grade, who's always doing hot girl shit too.

Natalie: She was like, I know. Right. And she didn't even say it like she was trying to be funny she said it like, she was tired. Like she was 45 years old chain smoking and tired 

Julia: Aw. Chain smoking. She was like, 

Natalie: I know, right. I was like, it is, I was like, it is, it's a lot of pressure to be the coolest person that, you know, it really 

Julia: is.

Julia: I don't know if I'm the coolest person I know. Well, but I do know that I have run in some pretty cool crowds. So it's exhausting. 

Natalie: It is. It can be, yeah, it is exhausting to be the people who have to make sure that everyone's having a good time to make sure that you're the coolest, that you're dressed. The coolest that you're, 

Julia: just letting all just casually Instagram people to tune in now just like literally 

Natalie: like to be like Danny Zuko is exhausting.

Natalie: Like Nicki gets it up easy because he gets to pretend like he is very cool, but he is the second, like he's 

Julia: the next slide command. Yeah. 

Natalie: Yeah. In the next slide I would like to be the second. I would like to be the LA Fu to someone's guest on if you 

Julia: will. you're better than Lavu though. LA is the LA fool 

Natalie: LA 

Julia: wait.

Julia: Yeah. I just, I feel like, okay, here's the thing. They're all dumb, but can Nicki's the hottest one in my opinion, because Danny. Looks great and tight pants. Mm-hmm teeny tiny type pants, but K Nicki's got this whole, like, I don't know what it is. 

Natalie: I don't know what it is either because he has like,

Julia: we'll still be friends, Natalie. Just say it. 

Natalie: I don't know. It's something about his face. He's not as bad as the guy who drives like the bad car, the bad man in the bad car. Oh, 

Julia: call the one. They actually call crater 

Natalie: face the crater face, but I'm like, Nicki, you need to put some more cream on your face before you just go sling accusations.

Julia: Well, he's 30. So, um, so I was looking up the play cuz you know, it's a, mm-hmm , it's a musical stage musical first. See that. So, but okay. Here's what I learned the first run of the show. Was so vulgar and so over sexualized that like for the se, so with every season that it runs, it gets diluted down more and more.

Natalie: They taken out out, um, you're the one that I want. They don't do it in Indiana. That's the last time I saw C live and they, and I waited, cuz that's the best one. are you 

Julia: not? That's literally the song that makes, I mean, I know that there's Greece is the word, but no. 

Natalie: And then my, and then my sister tried to be like, well, that one was the one that was written for the movie.

Natalie: And I was like, shut up. That was hopelessly devoted to you. Like, I don't know my grace facts. like, 

Julia: so I'm over here. Like, well, I wanna see the original 1971 version that was deemed so vulgar. 

Natalie: The movie is pretty vulgar because 

Julia: the movie is pretty fucking vulgar. Yeah. 

Natalie: I was telling my therapist today. I was like, You know, like number one, Greece was like the first PG 13 movie that I got to watch behind my parents back.

Natalie: Mm. So it was like the one that no one signed off on. And then like my aunt Melissa was like, we're gonna watch Greece. And then she like, got me the soundtrack. And I used to perform said soundtrack to all of my stuffed animals with my karaoke machine, the movie soundtrack. Right? Not the stage. Yes. The movie, the movie soundtrack.

Natalie: I played all of the roles. It did convince me that I could sing. And you're welcome because I sang on every episode now the show so you can blame my aunt we blamed her for things 

Julia: before, or we could thank her. It's really, we think her 

Natalie: all about, or we could I'll get her something from mother's day. I don't know.

Natalie: Yeah. Um, but watching it as a 30 year old, because then it also becomes one of those things that you put on the background, but you go into like a F state. Yeah. Because you're like, I've seen Greece 18 times. I don't need to pay attention to what she's saying. I know what's gonna happen. I know the beats.

Natalie: Yeah. And so then you have to pay attention to it. Cuz I have to write an outline for a show and I'm like, Mariso what the fuck did you just say about 

Julia: relish? Yeah. She eat that 

Natalie: hot dog. She'll eat that hot dog, which is 

Julia: a 

Natalie: euphemism, which is a euphemism . Everything that Rizzo says is a bad euphemism. Yeah.

Natalie: And I was like, is this how they got like through the sensors? They were like, they're talking about, but they're really talking about Dick. Like, 

Julia: I mean, but in grease lightning, he's like the chicks will cream for grease lightning grease. I'm like how the shit did that not get asked? Grease. Lightning was my 

Natalie: favorite one to perform to my stuffed animals in my bedroom because you got to do the, the grease lightning calm down.

Natalie: Grease I now I don't even know what the green yeah, yeah. Green Lighton go grease lightening, but yeah. Um, chicks will cream. I didn't know. They said we'll get their tips or they'll show their tips or something for we'll get the tips for grease lightning. Well, yeah, I had to, because I was, this might be the first time I've watched with caption.

Natalie: Yeah. And I was. What did you just say? Yeah, 

Julia: you did about that car. You know, our local, like art house in town mm-hmm does a sing along version and I've never gone because the frenzy of the grease people, because as you know, and me in your, in your list, listeners on the show won't know this, but the Lister's on my show will know this George Lucas is from my town and American graffiti is his, you know, a film he did based on is greasers.

Julia: Yeah. And so we cruising, it's a whole thing. The month of June, you come, you see cars, it's a whole thing devoted to it. So the fucking, so grease has a different impact in Modesto because it's like an extension of the American graffiti life. Oh my God. And like, it's, so I've never gone to the singalong because I'm just scared that it's gonna be like.

Julia: It's just gonna be 

Natalie: men who really think that they're John Travolta or just like, 

Julia: you know, really pitchy squeezy. 

Natalie: Oh, it's gonna be that but no, there's no 

Julia: winner. I should go next time they do it. And then like live and 

Natalie: usually be live. Listen, that's weird. That's kidding. Listen, I sing my pitchy little heart out to hopelessly devoted to you.

Natalie: And have you ever seen that song about a crush? Like have you ever like reeled down in the dumps? Yeah, because like you had to go to a, a school dance alone and you watched your crush be with someone else at the dance mm-hmm and then you waited until you got home to like softly cry and be like, yeah, no, no, there's no where the.

Julia: Yeah, no, don't get me wrong. I'm here for a sing along. I'm just like the fanaticism is what scares 

Natalie: me. Yeah. Um, Greece is the word and you heard this got groove. It's got 

Julia: feeling. Yeah. The other thing too, like the overt, like obvious, like women are clearly here for one thing. And one thing only, like when, when Rizzo says to Sandy true love and he didn't lay a hand on you sounds like a creep to me.

Julia: No Rizzo, no Rizzo. That's not right. 

Natalie: I get it though. I get that. Like, Rizzo's just down for a good time and like give it up to the girls who wanna fuck, like I get it. No, I'm not 

Julia: saying that's not what I'm saying, Natalie. I'm saying that the dance moves, especially at the end when homeboys, like doing this differentiate and like, um, you know how Danny's constantly forcing himself on Sandy and she's like, Danny?

Julia: No, like, no, Danny, like he's a Papa on his nose. Bad boy. Bad Danny. 

Natalie: I'm just saying that as a person who has a religious trauma, it's one of the episodes, check it out. We've got a view where let's see if they've come. Cause I'm on the wrong screen. 

Julia: Hello viewer. Oh, tell us, tell us us where 

Natalie: you're from. um, but anyways, uh, as someone who has religious trauma, check it out, it's one of the episodes , um, I feel like dating hasn't changed that much from Greece.

Natalie: I feel like you're still going to a bad diner. Yeah. That guy can't pay for your Sunday. if his dudes are there, he will be an asshole to you. Yeah. And he's still going to feel like he has the audacity to feel you up. Yeah. Because he took you to the drive 

Julia: through. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm mm-hmm but I'd rather strand, you know, get he's got, you'll get stranded at the drive-in.

Julia: Right. If you're gonna try and fill me up and it's only the second date. Well, I don't know I'm a grown up now, so that might be different. But 20 years ago, I probably would not. Yeah. That time to 20 years ago, 20 years ago, I would've been like Sandy, Danny, how dare you. And then when she slams the door, I didn't understand until I was an adult that oh, that he was hard yeah.

Julia: I was like, oh, . I was like, 

Natalie: because you know, you're like, it couldn't have hit him that much. Like Doris latch. Yeah. Like they stop. It's not like they just keep going and then you're like, oh, it's because he hard. 

Julia: He's hard. Yeah. Uh, who like, like how was I allowed to ever watch this? 

Natalie: I don't know. I would like for everyone, whether you're listening to the replay or being here right now, I want you to tell us your favorite dirty part of 

Julia: grace.

Julia: yes. There's so many, the whole movie. right. It's just the whole movie. Um, I cringed the entire time, 

Natalie: but it's the Ben McCain. Vince Fontain it's the Vince Fontain for me when he gets up there and does like the, and he kicks 

Julia: or like, did you catch when Marty said I caught Vince, Fontain putting something in my drink, aspirin, aspirin.

Julia: I was like, this movie is literally a cautionary tale, but it's so idolized as the perfect, whatever that I'm just like, I can't, I don't think I can do this anymore. You guys, 

Natalie: I can do it. Um, because at this point it's just funny. And then like I kept focusing on, you know, the two Danny's in the film. Yeah.

Natalie: Where it's like, he could really hold his shit together during alone time with Sandy. Yeah. Was that Mario Mario's here? What up Mario? Glad to see you pal. What's your favorite dirty liner part from Greece. mines, VI Vince. Fontain just the entirety of Vince. 

Julia: Fontain the audacity of Vince 

Natalie: font. The audacity of Vince Fontain because I was a Marty who just wanted to be with whatever, like talented, old person was in the room.

Natalie: I'm like, what have you? 

Julia: Yes. Oh, I wish I could like comment back to Mario, but I can't, it won't let me, 

Natalie: what if I show it? 

Julia: Mario's on the ticker. He's home, 

Natalie: the ticker. Um, but yeah, like I, so it's been ed for me, but I kept focusing on the two Danny's because Danny could only be a person if Nicki wasn't around.

Natalie: And I was like, every guy I've updated is like this. Every guy, just like, wait to hold all of his nasty until his friends are around. And then he is talking to me some stupid way and he stunted in some stupid way and he is grabbing my ass some stupid way. And I'm like, who are 

Julia: you? you know, what's interesting though.

Julia: We never see Nikki and Rizzo outside of them fighting. So we don't know anything other than them fighting Frenchie and white. Why she's yeah, 

Natalie: that, that is a good part. Oh my God. And how she smokes, like a French girl 

Julia: there we go. 

Natalie: Oh my gosh. Um, you're right. We don't see number one. There was because the only 

Julia: cuz they're making out in his car, which is a pile of crap.

Julia: So that's like the only intimate times we see them. Yeah. But with Danny and Sandy, we see them being a couple like, well, and. 

Natalie: Nicki was like a little bit heartbroken when Rizzo didn't wanna see him anymore. Like he really like, he felt that yeah, he felt that when she was like, do not worry, you are not the one that knocked me up.

Natalie: You were clearly the one who knocked her up, Nicki. Yeah. You just had the wrong, um, reaction at a drive through or a drive-in drive in. Um, but there were two instances where I wanted more hot go. I wanted more hot GOs about Rizzo and Zuko hinted at relationship. I was like, I would just like further to be one scene where Frencher Jan pull Sandy over and they're like, so here's what happened.

Natalie: Because Rizzo is like, volatile about ruining Danny's good time. Yeah. Yeah. And I would like to know why. Yeah. And I bet you, it has something to do with that cha cha girl. 

Julia: And like, this is why I wanna see the very first original Chicago version of Greece. Yeah. Because I was reading that they like for the movie they took out and I've seen the stage production.

Julia: But now that I know it's like a water down version, I'm irritated because like they, where was I going with this? I don't 

Natalie: know someone get the original script and let's do it. Let's make a 

Julia: show. The 1971. Chicago version. That's what we're, that's what we're asking. That's we need for 

Natalie: that's we need it. I need to know what went down with Rizzo and Danny let's all speculate 

Julia: together.

Julia: well, and to add, I remembered my train. Um, they were saying in the archives reading about how like Greece two was supposed to also be sort of like, here are all the characters that were in the original production that didn't make it into the movie. So like, this is their like parts of the story. And I don't, I haven't seen Greece two in a long time.

Julia: You and I have had this conversation. So I don't remember anything from Greece 

Natalie: two. It's a great movie. I need everyone to know right now. I will go to my grave being like grease two is a great movie and the songs are good because in glee, Ryan Murphy had to come for it and be like, infant was like, remember when we watched grease and then we watched grease two and you didn't know why no one liked grease two.

Natalie: And I told you it was because the songs aren't as good in Greece two. And I was like, songs are good in Greece too. It is a fun movie, Mario. I'm putting 

Julia: right Uhhuh and the guy who's Rex Manning, right? Yeah. From empire records. Yeah. It's Rex Manning 

Natalie: day. It's Rex Manning 

Julia: day. Oh, Rexy. You're so sexy. 

Natalie: Yeah. So, um, they sing that cool rider song maku.

Natalie: Oh yeah. Mm-hmm LA also Greece two is the only way I got sex ed through that reproduction song, reproduction, reproduction. 

Julia: I think I've only seen this movie once. I think I've only seen grease two once. 

Natalie: And then they do the girls for all seasons, for the talent show. And then she sings about how her cool writer is dead.

Natalie: Um, and then they do my God. And then the kind of like Marty and other goofy guy, um, couple, oh, I also like let's bowl let's bowl. Let's rock and roll. I also enjoy that song. Um, I sing it every time. I'm about to go bowling. I'm like let's bowl let's bowl, let's Rob and roll. And people are like, what the fuck?

Natalie: you got a theme song for bowling? I was like grease two motherfuckers. Yeah. Um, but the ones that are like the foil for like Marty and that horrendous looking man that they pair up Marty within the movie is they have another couple and it's during the like red scare. So they, her boyfriend, like he has the other greasers, like.

Natalie: A siren like an alarm siren, like the coms are coming siren and , and then they rush to the bomb shelter that his parents or her parents have set up or whatever. And he tries to convince her that they need to have sex, because what if they're the only people who are left because they made it to the bomb shelter.

Natalie: And it's this whole song called let's do it for our country. 

Julia: Oh my God. It's the 

Natalie: first time I felt like an American let's do it for our country. Wants us to, 

Julia: oh my gosh. This is, this is, this is a little intense. So back to Greece, 

Natalie: talking about Greece. 

Julia: The first one. Okay. The first 

Natalie: one, I don't know what happened with Danny and Rizzo and I wish that the sequel had cleared that up.

Julia: Yeah. I think what happened with Danny and Rizzo is they hooked up mm-hmm , you know, like yeah. Back seat of a car situation. He's not even classy enough to like take her to a motel room and lie about being married. 

Natalie: Right. Without taking her to hotel room and lying about being married. 

Julia: there was a movie that came out in the like 70 years ago, 75, 80 years ago.

Julia: That that was part of the, that was part of the plot, like the young 20 something teenage couple, you do it. So they went to hotel and like pretended to be a married couple. Oh, you know, so they could rent a room together because they wouldn't be rented a room if they weren't married or married. 

Natalie: You know what I, um, am so glad fell by the wayside for Greece two.

Natalie: And for every movie after 1977, Thank God, we don't have the veracious making out fake MOS that Rizzo and KKI perform. Oh yeah. On when they're parking. I'm like, 

Julia: what is this? Yeah. Yeah. And what's her face in crater face too. Like Chacha when Chacha, when he like grabs her violently behind the head, which is normally a very hot move.

Julia: Yeah. To have the hand and he just makes it abusive and then pulls and then like eats her face. 

Natalie: I know that there are movies where the make, oh, it's cry, baby cry. Baby is the movie that I am thinking of. I'm like, what's the movie that I'm thinking of, where the make out scenes are even gross. And it's world renowned, Johnny dub, starring movie 

Julia: crybaby.

Julia: I haven't seen that movie forever. I honestly couldn't tell you what happened, cuz it's been so long and I've probably only seen it once. 

Natalie: Oh no. I used to watch crybaby every time it was on TV. I own it. Oh, I love that. Yeah. Um, I love the friend she's voice of reason for the entire movie. And she's like, men are rat Sandy.

Natalie: And I was like, this just in men are rat mm-hmm Frenchie. Like Frenchie is the best. She's the best. 

Julia: And you know, she's so innovative, like she's ahead of her time, because I mean, she didn't know that pink care would become cool one day. Right. She was a 

Natalie: trailblazer. Right. And she like, for one thing, I love that.

Natalie: Like they are watching Sandy, like be nice to that. And that girl and French is like, I don't know. Do you think she could be a pink lady? Like she's just been waiting for eons for another nice person to be in their friend group. And I'm like, because like Marty and Jan, I love Jan pressure, pressure and brush.

Natalie: Yeah. I love Jan. Um, still clocked the line where he told her that he thought she was more than fat 

Julia: oh, I wrote that down as a thing. Like Jan's not fat through this whole fucking movie. She's not fat, but they put a big boogy sweater on her and make her talk about how she can eat pie. And then like all these things and she's the fat girl.

Julia: And then suddenly she's skinny at the end of the movie when they're doing the final 

Natalie: number. Cause her diet 

Julia: worked cause the diet worked. I'm just like, you know what 

Natalie: Hollywood, fuck you. Yeah. It's bad enough when you order your food at a restaurant and the guy that you're with is like, damn you can eat I can in fact eat 

Julia: I can in fact eat this entire large pizza to myself.

Julia: I 

Natalie: can, it's going to make me violently ill later and I'm going to have to drink copious amounts of ginger tea but for right now I feel like I can do it. Mm-hmm you're correct. Yeah. Um, But I love Frenchy. I beauty school dropout used to be the song on the soundtrack that I would skip. Really? Why? I don't know.

Natalie: I didn't like him. I thought it was a boring song. You 

Julia: didn't like, what's his name? Frankie. Avalon. 

Natalie: No, I did not. 

Julia: he's like, he's like the beach movie guy and that Frank, I know he's in 

Natalie: that thing. You do. Isn't he don't they bring him in for that thing. You do to be like some hat on when they're doing the movie on the beach.

Natalie: Oh, I don't remember 

Julia: that. I just assumed it was BA that scene was based on, um, the Frank internet movies. 

Natalie: Oh yeah. I do like, so I always clocked Rizzo in the beauty school dropout scene. Mm-hmm I assume that Marty was up front, but I finally saw Jan this go around. I was like, there she is. It is all of them.

Natalie: yeah. 

Julia: Beauty school drop. I felt bad for, um, for Frenchie too, because like, she was like, I'm just having a hard time in all my classes and you're like, yeah, girl, cuz beauty. School's harder than it looks. right. 

Natalie: Oh see Mario agrees with me. It was his least favorite song too. Oh, 

Julia: maybe cuz it's more balance like, and that's why like it, I like balance just slow.

Julia: Yeah. I like the slow. I think beauty school dropout in choir was the easiest one for me to sing and that's why I wasn't like about to pass it up. All right. 

Natalie: The easiest ones. The same for me is hopelessly to devoted to 

Julia: you. oh my God. Did you see the video of that? Mariah, Carrie posted in tribute to Olivia Newton, John of them singing together.

Julia: Mm-hmm I'm gonna send it to your DMS right 

Natalie: now. Okay. Um, I see, don't get emotional speaking. I'm hopelessly devoted to you. I remember her being next to a water feature when Danny's head pops up into the water and it was a fucking kitty pool. I was like, why didn't I make up this entire pond? in my head.

Natalie: Anytime someone's had a pond, like a water feature in their backyard, I would wait until everyone would go. And then I would sing hopelessly devoted to you softly to myself. Also, I don't know if you all clocked this, but Sandy is a witch. She wrote Danny a letter and then to cleanse him from her soul, she soaked the letter.

Natalie: A baby pool. That's a cleansing ceremony. she's one of mine. , 

Julia: she's one of your, she's one of mine. She's one of 

Natalie: us. She's one of mine. Um, but yeah, I love hopelessly devoted for you. I, okay. Here's the question of the evening though. Mm, do we fault? Because all of the fault and blame as to why grace is quote unquote, detrimental to women always, always 

Julia: falls.

Julia: Oh, I should say horny as fuck. 

Natalie: Well, yeah, but also always falls too. Sandy making the change to be sexy for her man to see 

Julia: started it. Danny started it, sorry for that loudness. And again, in my reading, apparently what was typical at the time? Um, 71 and earlier was men changing and conforming for women.

Julia: Yeah. To be softer. Yeah. And so Greece was like, well, we're gonna flip that script. 

Natalie: And you know what good on her for having a ho revolution? Like she had a volution. I don't think she keeps 

Julia: it up though. I don't think it lasts beyond that one scene because no it's 

Natalie: leather is so unforgiving 

Julia: yeah. Minute.

Julia: She has to go to the bathroom. Those pants are staying off. I'm 

Natalie: like the amount of curl in her hair. I was like, Ugh, you don't like smoking that much, Sandy. Yeah. 

Julia: But yeah, I think that you're like, because what I think it's overlooked, as you were saying is Danny's transition throughout the whole movie.

Julia: Like it's not easy to let her in 

Natalie: a sport. No, but he somehow did it. Even though he chain smoked the entire time he ran a 

Julia: lap. Well, okay. Listen. Um, as a former smoker who, if misses smoking every single fucking day, don't start smoking cuz you will miss it every day. I was a runner and a smoker at the same time.

Julia: So, yeah, I like, I'm not saying that you can cheat your lungs out of it, but if you do enough breathing exercises, like that's the thing, like I understand they're like, oh, it's terrible for your lungs. But what they don't tell you is that there are ways to like, still keep your lung capacity strong while being a smoker.

Julia: It's like still eating fucking ice cream every day and going to the gym, like, you know what I mean? Like it's eating the in theory, they tell us eating ice cream and junk food every day is gonna make us fat. But if you're countering those calories with some sort of like intense workout, so they can't store up and become fat, like it's true for I'm gonna get canceled.

Julia: the America long Association's coming at me. People 

Natalie: still smoke. People still smoke. I go out into the world and I still see, did I tell you that during COVID I forgot that cigarettes were a thing. Oh. And I thought that everyone vaped it now. So the first time that I saw a lit actual cigarette, I was like, we still 

Julia: do this sort thing.

Julia: Whenever I see older, like 45 year old to 50 year old smoking, I'm always like, but we're the gen like you guys like 45 and under were the generation that they heavily did. Anti-smoking campaigns. Like how did this happen? 

Natalie: Mm-hmm I don't know. I don't know how people pick up their first cigarette 

Julia: tobacco.

Julia: That's how it happened because tobacco money is in everything. Is it capitalism? Um, I'll convinced capitalism exists because of big tobacco cuz tobacco money is literally in everything. Well, if I murdered tomorrow, you know, it was big 

Natalie: tobacco. why you said that you can still be a track star. She's a stone she's supposed to track star and she can still have a cigarette afterwards.

Natalie: Yeah. Or during 

Julia: or during time periods. There's time periods. God's 

Natalie: smoking every day. Yeah. Um, I don't like smoking. I don't it like for one thing, I probably have undiagnosed asthma layered right on top of my undiagnosed ADHD. And so like, it just hurts and then it doesn't taste good and I'm like, oh God, , 

Julia: I'm not, I could go into a whole, into a whole thing about cigarette quality and what's better than not, but we don't, we don't want time.

Julia: We don't have that. We don't wanna encourage and endorse. Well, how long 

Natalie: is, is that Danny tried first to, uh, change himself and Sandy just stuck the landing. Yeah. Like she. Stuck 

Julia: it Frenchie. Can you help me? I can't do Australian accent. Can you help me your help with something Paz? Why the fuck was she in her socks at the car race?

Julia: Like that's and she not wearing broke. She had her shoes off. They were sitting next to her. So then after French come was over and is like, oh, hi Sandy, how's it going? She's like, oh, hi friend, do I help with something? And then like, as Frenchie's walking away, she's putting her kids back on and I'm over here.

Julia: Like, why were your shoes off? Why 

Natalie: you think it was one of those disgusting, stupid directing calls that they make sometimes when they're like, Hey, make you look me laugh, Sandy, or that you were so nervous. You kicked off your 

Julia: shoes. And then people like me who don't even allow shoes in my house would never walk and stocking feet outside.

Natalie: Oh my God. Um, I guess let's talk about the big transformation. I'm all for cuz here's another thing that Greece could be an allegory for. So like Sandy was the prime example of everything that a girl in that time period was supposed to be mm-hmm mm-hmm and then Rizzo was all of the girls that your mom and dad told you to stay away from.

Julia: Yeah. Cuz you don't wanna grow up to be her house. 

Natalie: And then she has like a pregnancy scare and everyone's like, of course Rosa's having a baby. Like, so anyway. and then, so Sandy, like, again, just like, it is so much pressure and so exhausting to be the cool one. It is just as much pressure and just as exhausting to be the pure one.

Natalie: Yeah. And the good one. Yeah. And the one that's always trying to tell your friends, like, what if we were good people today? What if we weren't a bunch of trash mouths? Like Chrissy never looked like she was relaxed and now, and then . So I think what part of like Greece did with the Sandy character, was it allowed women to be like, you can be both in the same lifetime, if not the same day.

Natalie: Yeah. Like you can say no as many times as you want, but you can also like lean into the ho. 

Julia: Yeah. And I think that it's okay. Like, I, I wrote down this thing, I was like, how could we go from being a horniest fuck society, right. To this completely repressed situation. When we know that education about all the things actually leads to better decision making.

Natalie: I don't know. I heard that we're blaming Reagan. I can't remember why. 

Julia: I know we blame Reagan because for a, for aids spreading the way it did that, I do know we just 

Natalie: blame Reagan for anything. And like, if anyone could answer the question, I'll make it a question like yeah. Who made America such a fruit 

Julia: Purita.

Natalie: Well, I mean, they were the first ones. Yeah. But they're not around anymore. 

Julia: Yeah. Yeah. And then too, like, I don't know, was it scary or something like, again, it goes back to the more you have conversation educate about a certain issue, the less likely like you you'll you'll make poor decisions. Um, and that's the thing that's kind of frustrating for me because like, people don't wanna talk about sex.

Julia: Like there are even parts that like, it I'm the age that I am, and I'm finally comfortable with having conversations, but I still have. Weird and awkward right conversations with my kid. Like it's like you guys a lot more conversation about sex 

Natalie: or do you guys still lie awake at night and wonder if you're still having sex wrong and like, you still haven't figured out the mechanics.

Natalie: It's like, am I having 

Julia: sex incorrectly? no, I've never actually worried. I've never, I've never had that problem. 

Natalie: okay. Well, let me tell you about something in Indiana. None of my friends were having sex, let alone telling us what sex looked like. Like sex is scary. Yeah. When you were devoid of any conversa conversation about sex.

Natalie: Yeah. Or any like wherewithal warning. Yeah. I shouldn't say that. I'm the one having sex. Ron. I'm still having sex with partners that don't understand how the mechanics are supposed to look it's 

Julia: like that or still 

Natalie: friends. Yes. I also believe that TikTok calls it, like rubbing the left flap. . and then asking you, if you came like, and then TikTok it's thousands of comments.

Natalie: They were always like, it's always the fucking left one. like, , it's always the fucking left one. Oh my gosh. So I don't, I'm not the only one just like sitting there with new sexual partners going, like, I don't think, you know how this works. I don't think, you know how this works 

Julia: cause like anything else it's experience and having conversation and having a discussion with your partner of like, these are the, and that's the thing that pop culture, I think does a really terrible job at doing is showing that representation of like, let's have a conversation about like, again, going back to the friend's reference, cuz that's the first time I remember seeing it on TV.

Julia: When that episode aired mm-hmm was like, you know, Chandler's like, I'm worried. I, I share a wall with Joey. I hear what happens, da da, da. And then they go through all the androgynous songs and then, you know, the first time he and his girlfriend at the time. Have sex. He's like, he wasn't that great. Like she wasn't happy.

Julia: So then Rachel and Monica walk him through it and he's like, What what? And then the next time we see the situation girlfriends running into Monica's apartment hugging, both of them thanking them. Yeah. But honestly, the onus is on the couple to have that conversation about 

Natalie: Mario. So confused, 

Julia: Mario gets it.

Julia: Cause he's he's saying, so I 

Natalie: was seven. I thought that you were question mark. I thought he was just like, what 

Julia: the hell? Because that's what Monica's doing when she's. Yeah. And so, but the only is on the couple to have that conversation of like, here are the things that I like, and here are the things that this is like a, no, like this is a no go, you know, 

Natalie: that is why while like thoroughly enjoy the show.

Natalie: Never have I ever, this third season pissed me off. Every episode I go there, she is just all in her head. We even have a fucking third party narrator, not telling these kids like this. Isn't sh how it should be it. if she would have one conversation with any of them yeah, she would like, all of this would be 

Julia: alleviated

Julia: Yeah. But there's shame behind it. Yeah. There's shame behind having those conversations and being open about it and, and it start, and it starts really, when we see that with Rizzo, like Rizzo is like a confident woman. She knows who she is. She knows what she likes. She knows what she wants. She's 43. she's a 43 year old confident woman.

Julia: But she is ashamed for all of those things. Mm-hmm 

Natalie: even though Annette fucked Danny too. Yeah. Do we clock that? Annette fucked to Danny too? Yeah. They all fucked Danny, but then they wanted to talk about how Rizzo did it. Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, there are worst things I could do was like, literally one of those anthems that I would like carry with me.

Natalie: Yeah. As a teenager. And it was the same with like, take me or leave me from rent. Like there are just these songs that strong opinionated women get to latch onto mm-hmm because the world doesn't understand you. And I think there are worse things I could do would be the first one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because you're right.

Natalie: Like what's, Razo doing, she's just going on dates and she's getting fucked in. Was did she take good Nikki's virginity and that's why he had a condom since the second grade. Cause she got cause like, cause like I looked at her going, oh. Oh, and it's like dawning on her that maybe could Nikki isn't actually experienced.

Natalie: And I'm like, I don't know, Riz. You're gonna have to teach him the ropes, I guess. But then yeah, that's what it is too about this. Like, so like summer nights when like, all Sandy wants to do is convince these people that a boy was nice to her. And then all Danny wants to do is convince his bros that he got laid.

Natalie: And I was like in there it is. . 

Julia: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And they're so gross about it. Like, was she a good girl? Did she give it up easy? Um, excuse me. Are you saying that you should still go for it even after she says no, because that's a problem. 

Natalie: That's a problem, grace. It's a problem. At least they did call out their buddy for just like openly looking up people's skirts and the bleachers.

Natalie: Yeah, 

Julia: that's the line. That's the one we want it. 

Natalie: At least I did that. 

Julia: We found the line and drawn at looking blatantly up women's 

Natalie: skirts. But again, it's such a double standard too, because here I am living in PRD America where no one is supposed to be touching one another. However, all men talk about is touching us and I'm not allowed to have any control or the upper hand in that.

Natalie: Yeah, because that is why Rizzo is a pariah. Not because she has sex with her boyfriends because everyone's having sex with their boyfriends. She's a pariah because she actively seeks it out and she always has the upper hand in it. 

Julia: And she actively will tell you no when she doesn't want it. Yeah. And like, that's the thing, that's the difference between her and Sandy, Sandy doesn't know if she wants it.

Julia: She's just saying no, because she doesn't do those things because she's not there yet. Mm-hmm whereas Rizzo knows her line and she's willing to. Not willing. She knows when to say Uhuh back off Uhuh done. Not today. Satan, 

Natalie: not today. Satan. I don't need no more hickeys from K Nicki. 

Julia: the fact they worked that line in, when we did it in high school.

Julia: Like, that's the, like, there's so many things that are, that kills me about watching this now as a grown ass adult where I'm just like, you thought this was an appropriate performance for the senior class to do. Greece 

Natalie: is so like avant, Gar in guard in the like vulgarity that we couldn't make it through grease lightning without him taking the plastic and just like rubbing it on his penis.

Natalie: Yeah, because they were like Uhhuh that's where condoms go. And 

Julia: then he runs yep. The whole time. 

Natalie: You know, I lovely. Remember when coach Sylvester calls up grace and glee for being oversexualized and inappropriate for the kids, and then she gets upset. Wade versus unique wants to be Rizzo Rizzo, Rossi. I don't know.

Natalie: I do remember that. Oh, thank you. I do remember that glee episode. I do remember that glee episode. However, I am also the daughter of a hot mom who went to foot Lu the musical at my high school and became very upset that the woman who was playing the, uh, the young lady who was playing the woman lead info lose, could really make her hips go during the girl gets around and she did a great table dance.

Natalie: In low rise jeans and my mom was angry and she's like, it's just inappropriate for you guys to be doing it. I was like, but all of the people in these movies are our age. Yeah. Because there was a big like theme in media where like the teenagers are out of control. 

Julia: Yeah. Yeah. And I feel like that still kind of is something that we see, but not as backhanded, not as heavy handed.

Julia: I mean, but even 

Natalie: like, okay, so the school announcements are going on and like Rizzo's starting a poker game, someone putting in a dead frog and someone else's bag, someone else is using a buns and burner to smoke. Like no one is paying attention. No one gives a fuck that they're at school or whatever. I go, I can't re but like fast times at Ridgemont high.

Natalie: But loose. I go, that's how kids always used to look in school when they were in the media. And now like it's like a Mr. Feeney situation where whatever lesson the teacher is going overplay a pivotal role into the episode. 

Julia: Yeah. Yeah. That's interesting. I wonder if that was the boomers trying to sort of like shake.

Julia: Their parents' generation because, because their parents' generation, you know, world war II's happening and like all these things. So like, there's this freedom that can't happen because there's a war going on and fire war bonds. And, you know, where's your victory, garden, and Rosie, where are your rivets?

Julia: You know, kind of stuff. And then the war's over and like the economic boom happens. And you know, you can, you have this generation who doesn't re like, doesn't remember the war, but their parents do. So now they're like, so it's a culture clash because the parents lens is you are out of control, but really maybe they're not actually out of control.

Julia: Mm-hmm they just have more freedom because their parents' generation didn't have any freedom. 

Natalie: I mean, maybe, um, plus like after world war II and all of that, as you know, I am not a timeline expert. Uhoh, you're frozen. That's fine. I'm gonna write the banner.

Natalie: There you are. All right. Here's my question. What was the biggest block to the Sandy Danny relationship? Was it the tee birds or was it Rizzo? It was Danny

Natalie: I mean also, yes. 

Julia: I mean, true. I mean, I believe it was Danny because I find that his inability to be confident in who he is, mm-hmm really gets in the way, 

Natalie: you know, which he's supposed to be top dog. And it's like, you don't even like yourself, Danny. Exactly, 

Julia: exactly. He's top dog, but yet he can't stand up to these guys.

Julia: He can't be honest with like, no, no, you are not. You don't like yourself, so go fuck off. Well, to 

Natalie: the point where during the dance. He can't just tell Sandy, I fucked Chacha too. I fucked every girl in this gym. Right. Okay. I fucked them. All. Annette Chacha Rizzo, like the 

Julia: principal, you name it, the little 

Natalie: secretary who's grinding up and down on Ziggy.

Natalie: Like I fuck them all. I fucked them all Sandy mm-hmm mm-hmm . And if you haven't caught onto that, you haven't been paying attention. Yeah. 

Julia: Like which tiny little town are you from that you don't get it. So, which like, 

Natalie: part of it is like, I'm like, Sandy, this is on you too, because like, you should have clocked it and you should have also said, oh, did you date Chacha?

Natalie: Yeah. And then like, then it would've just been out there. And then like, if you had also been cool about it, because this is a EV trope, I hate, I hate when we're mad because someone got wild. Before they met you. 

Julia: Yeah. That's the dumbest shit. I'm like, why 

Natalie: am I mad that you dated three other people before you met me?

Natalie: You were just sitting at a window con like pining. 

Julia: Yeah. Like, why is the expectation for us to be again puritanical before we meet the, like, it, you can't, you don't know who you are in dating mm-hmm until you start dating. Right. Which for some of us takes multiple attempts, right? We're not 

Natalie: all Corey and Topanga.

Natalie: It should take multiple attempts. Also. Corey tried to make multiple attempts behind, uh Toga's back at a ski 

Julia: resort. Yes. And also there was another, like somebody posted today on IM 30 on Instagram, another ver like another attempt where he was like cheating. And I was like, Because you have to try, you have to experience life.

Natalie: Craig and Topanga are actually freaks. They're freaks. the 

Julia: outlier is meeting your quote soulmate. Should you believe in such things at such an early age like that? 

Natalie: Doesn't when I watched girl mates world, I actively told Jules that Topanga should divorce get Corey 

Julia: worst. He was that great. He was the worst.

Julia: Ugh. He was so like as an adult, I find Corey. Very, very frustrating. Yeah. Um, but you know, it's that whole back to Danny, like what got in the way of Danny and Sandy's relationship? I really do believe it was Danny because he allowed Rizzo and the tea birds to get in the way. Yeah. And he, we see him in the beginning being so caring and so loving with Sandy.

Julia: And he's clearly comfortable with who he is when he's with her, but then refuses. to allow himself that when she, when they, when she ends up at right high, cause he has a reputation to maintain a, you should like bro, your reputation can change. Like it's like if we're the whole point is to Evol evolve and grow, like that's part of living.

Julia: I 

Natalie: have never clocked how the Hement no. How ferociously, uh, Rizzo goes after the Sandy, Danny, the Sandy Danny relationship until this watch through, I was like, oh, it wasn't even like one or two like sarcastic comments. Like it was gunny, actual active actions. And I was like, what did you do? Zuko? What you do to R now I want the tea.

Julia: Yeah. Which we'll never get because the cast can never reunite. 

Natalie: Cause some of them are dead.

Natalie: mm-hmm. Well, I mean, I guess we could AC ask the playwright. I would just like to know what Danny did to Rizzo I 

Julia: think he said too, the play original, the original stage corrections, 1971. 

Natalie: I don't know if he cheated. I don't know if he wouldn't have sex with Rizzo and that pissed her off. Like, did she try to cheat on can Nicki with Danny?

Natalie: He about sloppy seconds. 

Julia: Yeah. But, okay. So that line kind of, kind of threw me a little bit because I always understood it as Nicky and Rizzo getting together. This is their first go around. Yeah. So I didn't understand how to do sloppy seconds unless he's saying that to intentionally be a Dick. Right.

Julia: Because really like, can Nick use the sloppy 

Natalie: seconds? I don't know. I don't know what happened between the Danny em Rizzo relationship, but I desperately want to, we should 

Julia: write fan fiction. Oh, my God. Can we about what happened? Well, what 

happened? 

Natalie: What happened? Let's all speculate. What did Danny do to Rizzo?

Natalie: What did Danny do? I,

Natalie: I don't know if we should talk about the pregnancy of it all because it ended up not just not being a thing. I like how he told her that she shouldn't be on a Ferris wheel though. yeah. What was that? You 

Julia: shouldn't be on that Ferris wheel in your condition, 

Natalie: Americans. Dunno anything about pregnancy? 

Julia: I was like, I'm sure she's fine.

Julia: I'm sure it's fine. Like chill, chill, chill, chill. 

Natalie: Um, speaking of the dance off, when I taught kindergarten, um, schools thought that they were doing me a favor by allowing my kids, the kindergartners to come to an event. earlier than everyone. And then sit and watch the rest of the school file into the event.

Natalie: No, which is the opposite. Yeah. You have to rope off my section. Yeah. And then have us come in. So to stave off mutiny because the kids had to be patient or wait or whatever. I taught my kindergartners the hand job. Yes. And we would do it every time we had to be patient. Every time we'd have to be patient, I would just like hand job.

Natalie: I'd be like, come on, let's do it. And one time we were at an assembly and my friend was backstage because he was helping with sound or lights for the set assembly. And I was leaving the hand Ja with my kids. And I'm always just like focused when you're a kindergarten teacher, you are only focused on your pleasant little group of as hats.

Natalie: And you're like, No one's puking. No, one's peeing. No, one's anything. We are doing the hand J so then I heard my friends very specific Nat look at me whistle that I looked at him and he like motioned to the rest of the school. And I had somehow gotten everyone 

Julia: to do this oh, I love that. He goes, 

Natalie: it started like very slowly, like, just like a couple of the older kids were like looking at one another were into it.

Natalie: Yeah. And they're like, I mean, we gotta sit here yeah. And then, because some of the other older kids were doing, then some of the other kids were like, I don't know, fuck it. We were doing the hand job and he goes, and you got everyone to do it and you didn't know. I go, no, because I was like looking at my worst kid going, look at me, look at me.

Natalie: Look at. We are hand driving and that is all we are allowed to do right now. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I kind of 

Julia: love that. That actually I do really love the gym scene where they are on national bandstand, a rip off of 

Natalie: American bandstand. I love it 

Julia: in like all the dancing. Oh, so much fun. Please. Please tell me. You were also the child who was like, I'm gonna learn this dance and do it in the living room and irritate the shit out of everybody.

Natalie: Did you learn the Chacha leg move that I think was this impressive during this go around, I was like, is Chacha that good of a dancer? Or does she just have really fairly outfits and great legs and great legs? Like all Taha was also 52. Like I was like, how old are these 

Julia: people? we need mature adults to play in this movie because it's so vulgar.

Julia: Um, That scene, that dance scene. And then also obviously the end dance number too. Like those were the ones that I was like, all right, move the furniture back. Julia's in the room, we're doing the dance. I 

Natalie: love them. Like Danny and Chacha win the little contest or whatever, and they have to do a spotlight dance.

Natalie: Yeah. And Danny, like, instead of just going, like, I should probably find Sandy. He just like, like, he immediately 

Julia: goes into it. I just feel like that's also probably true of just John Travolta. Yeah. Bless his heart. Bless 

Natalie: its heart. Bless. Remember that? I opened the show by going like, is John Travolta another dude that they've just decided it doesn't matter if you can sing or not.

Natalie: You just get to be in the musical movie. And 

Julia: when did Saturday night fever come out? Was that SA seven, nine? It was before. 

Natalie: Yeah. That's what my therapist said today. I'm not sure though, 

Julia: because he, his outfit at. The national bandstand was actually very reminiscent of the seventies. Mm-hmm which I was like, okay, you're letting us know this is the seventies, rather than you're taking us out of 1959 with the way that his shirt is open.

Julia: Right now. I 

Natalie: like that scene because they all reacted as high schoolers. Should, if a TV crew is at high school where you just like following and you're just like doing this. Yeah. 

Julia: Ah, yeah, yeah. Especially in that era because, you know, we didn't that, you know, this is a generation and several generations to follow did not grow up with like television at your fingertips in this way.

Julia: So it's, you know, new, it's a novelty. Whereas now I can like basically create a TV show for my phone and load it to Instagram. Right. And not act crazy. Oh yeah. What you were 1977 Saturday night fevers, 1977. That's why I go to therapy to be right about, so how do you go from Saturday night fever to playing a high school kid?

Julia: Like this is the thing that kills me. The eighties did the same shit because some of the cast in breakfast club, six months later was in St. Elmo's fire. I love St almost fire. I mean, I don't, I'm not mad at it, but it's like one of those things, when you look at who's in the cast of breakfast club, and then you look at who's in the cast of STS fire, like Emilio, you literally just had detention.

Natalie: God, I say that when it came to Vince font and, and Danny weren't great men, but they were men who kept the pervert away from their ladies. Yeah, that's awesome. They were like, girl pervert. You can go right back to Marni. 

Julia: Oh, excuse me. In Saturday fever. He's 19. Oh my God even, but still again, I don't believe that you're 19.

Julia: Oh, it's on, on, on Showtime. Maybe I'll watch it this weekend. 

Natalie: Okay. We talked about the like gro at the drive-in, but we didn't talk about the grope at the drive-in number one. Danny goes into group Sandy, the arm in the same awkward ass fashion as Penelope. My cat will pretend like she's stalking up to me while making dead eye contact with.

Julia: Which that move lives in inny because 

Natalie: lives in inny. But like the TV shows everywhere. I asked 20 minute, like he did the robot before he landed on her. Boo

Natalie: I also love the trip. Oh, Sandy. Cause men still do this today. Like she's upset and she's pouting in the car and he's apologized and he doesn't know what else to do. So he goes, I know a trinket, oh, make her, my girl with my ring. 

Julia: But then he also thinks that that's gonna get the green light. Yeah. To get dirty.

Natalie: Even though she said, now I know that you respect me. And I was like, no one respects anyone Sandy in the fifties. No, 

Julia: because no, once. Doesn't meant, meant try again. Yeah. No once meant, try and try and try and try and try until you get out. So I guess there 

Natalie: is a case to say that like Danny wore Sandy down until she was like final wear leather pants.

Julia: which huh? Jokes on you. Cuz these are gonna be real hard for you to get off my God. 

Natalie: Uh oh,

Natalie: uh, but yeah, the drive-in scene. Yeah, 

Julia: that was intense. Like, first of all, like I wish drive-in still existed. Oh. I mean the winter time there's one nearby, like that will open up in the winter seasons, uh, cuz it's too hot in the summer to try and do a drive-in like triple digits or whatever. Um, and that's fun, but they only do like kid friendly movies 

Natalie: as you know, I don't like going out with children.

Julia: So I'm over here. Like how are we supposed to get it on in the car? If you're only showing kid friendly movie. Rude. Not that I would get it on in the car. It's you know,

Natalie: probably not now because of all the bending, my body would be forced to do. Um, you 

Julia: know that some car, like, I know cars, 

Natalie: aren't huge. Now they're practically bedrooms at this point. 

Julia: Yeah. Like my front seat, the passenger seat actually will lay all the 

Natalie: way flat. Yeah. Like maybe that's what we should start asking.

Natalie: Potential partners on dating apps is, is their car, do you 

Julia: have a car? And if so, does the front seat fold down all the way? oh my God. I don't think I could ask that. 

Natalie: I just want the low down, like, can I get down in your car? My car? No. 

Julia: I drive an SUV. So we could actually put the back seats down and have like a whole like station wagon situation.

Natalie: Well, I guess you and I should trade cars. If you're gonna be such a Sandy at the beginning of the movie that you can't even get down in a car,

Natalie: clearly you haven't dated enough men who live with their parents. um, whereas, well, I was always the 

Julia: one living with my parents. That's why it's like, you have your own place. Let's date. let's date. Doesn't matter that you're a pile of garbage. a pile of garbage. We can hang out somewhere without parental adults, because do you 

Natalie: think that the majority of the movie is actually told through Danny's lens?

Natalie: Yeah, I do. Yeah. Between the drive-in and the diner scene where he's trying to hide them from through a menu. When, when it's not Olivia Newton, John saying in a solo. Or Danny is just like absent from the scene. It is mostly from his lens. Mm-hmm 

Julia: yeah. A hundred percent, a hundred percent. Um, and I think that's, you know, a byproduct of the writers being male.

Julia: Yeah. Because they don't, they've never, this is how this, this is okay, this is my opinion. Take, leave it. When you have an overactive imagination and you kind of like, wonder what it's like to be something else mm-hmm , you know, you can create characters that are unlike you, right? Yeah. But when you have, uh, write what, you know, lens mm-hmm , it makes other characters flat because the one character that's you is clearly fleshed out because you're filling in everything about you into that character.

Julia: Right. But you're not imagining what it's like being the other characters. So you're only getting a snippet. So that's what makes. You know the story through one per in my opinion, through one person's lens. And I struggle with stuff like that, because as we heard on something earlier today, you know, when all the characters are really well rounded and flushed out in a way that you can like really be like, oh, that person could 100% be this person in my life.

Julia: That's what makes brilliant writing. Yeah. Um, I don't think grease is brilliant writing. I think it, what vulgar writing 

Natalie: grease is the word that you 

Julia: heard Uhhuh and also the shit people put in their hair. So it makes it really hard to run your hair through their fingers. Trust me, I've dated greasers. We have not had that conversation.

Natalie: Um, can we now, is it FaceTime call now where we just unhinge the show and we're like, tell me more about these greasers. What are their names? What are their addresses? Like what are their, uh, rising moon signs? 

Julia: I, it, it, but, but grace is fun. It's a fun sing along. It's a fun thing. 

Natalie: it's the same. It's it's the same with mama M yeah.

Natalie: I don't mean mama M to be fraught with tension. Yeah. Mama M is a musical that's written from ABA songs. Yeah. I don't need it. I don't, I don't need it to be Phantom. I don't need it to be Alexander Hamilton. I don't need it. 

Julia: And honestly, like you could've just put ABA songs with grease backgrounds with Grisha scenes and we would've been fine.

Julia: We would've loved that too. It could've 

Natalie: literally have just been Meryl street twirling for two hours. Yes mm-hmm. remember when they here's what I can't stand about movies. Remember when they advertised happy fee as was like, Two hour music video with penguins, and then you got to happy feet. And it was actually in an, it was actually propaganda against zoos.

Natalie: And I was like, I didn't wanna be depressed today. Yeah. I came to happy feet. 

Julia: So funny story. That was the first movie I took my child to the movie theater for cuz we love movies. Like, you know this like where our movie heavy family grew up watching movies. My dad's obsessed with television. Like it's a genetic thing.

Julia: So he was like, great. You're old enough that you can finally sit through a movie and it's kid movie. Yeah. 25 minutes in he's like, no and gets up and starts. 

Natalie: I was baby in that situation. I was like, what the fuck? 

Julia: Maybe he wasn't ready to sit through movies. And we were talking about it recently and he's like, I hate that movie so hard.

Julia: I was like, funny story told him exactly what I told you. And he is like, looks like I've had good taste for a long time.

Julia: So when 

Natalie: you say. We're gonna make a musical using ABA Amazons. I would find it on if that musical was about the Rwanda crisis. Right, right. It would be inappropriate. Right. So if we're just doing diner, doop songs yeah. Then you have to lean into the greaser 

Julia: thing. So there was this group that used to tour churches called the convertibles.

Julia: Oh my God. And they, I think they contributed to my grease obsession because they would come every year. We bought the tape, the cassette tape. I listened to it on repeat, knew every fucking song, not realizing that they had taken, like, you know, you know, um, Like soda shop songs and sort of like rewritten the words to be a little religious it's fun.

Natalie: Hold like scam man. Y'all IM is big in Deon Hamilton. 

Julia: Yes. Hold on on put a, been in that real quick. And so they would do a play every year. They'd come and do a musical every year with these like Bebo songs or whatever you wanna call 'em. And here's the thing, can't tell you one fucking thing about the theme of the show, because all I remember is the singing and dancing because they had very little story happening.

Julia: I mean, cuz we just wanted to hear your version of the temptations really? Yeah. Like, or, or not the temptations that's too late, but like 

Natalie: Frankie valley, 

Julia: Frankie valley. Yeah, 

Natalie: the convertibles. Yeah. I'm so deep on Hamilton. 

Julia: Yeah. You kind of, you sent me a bunch of stuff. Cause I was like, what are you talking about?

Julia: And I love limo. Manuel's. 

Natalie: Where he is like, lawyers will do what lawyers do. I'm like, that's the most gangster thing I've ever heard say out of anyone's mouth 

Julia: also. That's like, don't come for me cuz I will fuck you. 

Natalie: Like I got Disney was the scariest guy around. It might be Lynn, it might be Lynn man. Well, but then they unearthed that this isn't the first time they also have a greatest showman about God oh my God.

Natalie: And like it's, it's an adult playing Hugh Jackman show. He's like in his forties, he's like ladies and chance moment in a wait bar. Like no, just no. Yes. Just know. So they did great at showman too. And it's like the audacity that you believe that Alexander Hamilton had anything to do with your God. 

Julia: It's like let's skip over the first amendment.

Julia: Right? Let's skip over it, where they clearly have outlined. We do want separation of my God. We will not allow religion to dictate the rules of this land, which is ironic because really they did, they really did allow it. They really did. What's the point is, is they created doct in that said, don't allow it.

Julia: They wrote 

Natalie: something down and we choose to bring it up every once in a while. The thing of it all is, is I do feel bad for those kids because now those kids will always be known as being the like really bad singers and the Hamilton. Yeah. And then, and it's like, why would kids up like that? 

Julia: Yeah, because what, I mean, I went to church with kids who were like, I'm gonna go and have a career on 

Natalie: Broadway.

Natalie: and the entire time they saying like Jay Christ, super star, or like Russell Crow and Leman or here's den in mama M what you call me Mary increase. So I'm just saying that when Sandy asks him, if he's ever thought about professionally singing, he doesn't have to change his voice that much to do the like bad part of the song.

Natalie: And I was like, see, I was like, John Travolta knows he can't sing too 

Julia: but yet he got cast in, you know, additional cuz he was in hairspray. 

He 

Natalie: was, but I don't think the person who plays the mom in hairspray. I don't think that that is a role also where you care if the person can sing or not. Like that was just stunts camp casting for the movie.

Natalie: People willing to see John Jer in drag. 

Julia: Yeah. Okay. Fine. Fair. But in my opinion, Every cast member should be able to say yes, 

Natalie: no, that is also my philosophy. Don't do Footloose. If you have no dancers in your cast that year, save it, save it for another year, put on a shelf or, you know, 

Julia: bring in a 

Natalie: dance trainer or bring, bring, bring in that guy from, bring it on.

Natalie: Yes.

Natalie: But no, like the Hamilton thing is all over my TikTok. I'm like, you all have to stop sending me clips of these poor children. Well, because 

Julia: you fell down that rabbit hole. So now the algorithm was like, Natalie loves scam 

Natalie: because here's the thing too. They didn't change enough of it. Who, where, like for, it's not copyright infringement, right.

Natalie: For you to like, then change enough of it at all for it to even be comical. So you're just sitting through a child. Very badly singing satisfied. And you're literally just waiting for her to drop Bible verses, but they're never coming. And then at some point she goes, my God above and then that's it . So you're like, that's why I always get sucked in because I'm like, Ooh, how did they make wait for it of virginity?

Julia: they didn't, they didn't, they didn't spoil alert. They couldn't figure it out. They just wanted, they're not brilliant. They 

Natalie: Hamilton. Yeah. And I'm not even saying that, that there, the first people to rip off Hamilton, I'm sure that there are podunky little theaters, places that think that they can get and, um, away with it before Lynn UN clenches those rights.

Natalie: But now, but in the age, OFAC, you cannot. You can 

Julia: now? No, no. And we've had this conversation, but in, in context of comedy where it's like, I would want a hundred percent be the performer. Who's like, guess what? Bitches you're locking up your phone. Yeah. When John, no, none of this is ending up on any of your social platforms.

Julia: When John 

Natalie: Mo asked me on Thursday to put my phone in a pouch that I would not have access to for the entire show, I was like, you know what, John, you know what? You did it, you had an intervention, you went to rehab and you took a year and you made it funny. And I don't deserve to share that with anybody.

Natalie: Like I will put it in the, in the baggy. Yeah. However, I was the only person who still got to have a selfie. At the John Malanney show because that's what happens when, you know, people who work at the theater. So as soon as my bro came over to say hello, I was like, hi, we're taking a picture. I would still like to stunt for the internet.

Julia: Yes, yes, yes. Yeah. I feel like, 

Natalie: yeah. Yeah. So like the thing event is too, is when it comes to limo Miranda's content and musical library, mm-hmm , I believe that there are people who should be doing it and people who are doing in the Heights that shouldn't be doing it

Julia: with my life. At some point, I would love to be able to just spend a couple of months in New York hitting every Broadway show I can. Oh, oh yeah. But like maybe hitting him in preview. So it's not as expensive. Correct. That is the way 

Natalie: to do it. Yeah. 

Julia: Um, or just cause you know, where I live, where I live, we don't even get the touring cast.

Julia: We get the second touring cast. Who's like touring at the same time, but smaller theaters. So you don't even get like the greatest touring cast. You get, these guys bless their hearts. They work really hard and they're doing a really good job, but it's like, it's like, you know, when, where their differences mm-hmm, , it's like, you know, when you watch TV and it's not Pepsi, cuz they slapped a label over it.

Julia: Yeah. To be or whatever 

Natalie: the fuck they called it. You know, when you're a bar and you asked for a gin and Coke and they gave you a gin and RC and you're like, oh, I can tell the difference. 

Julia: Yes. That's 100%. and I feel awful saying that cuz I would 100%. Oh yeah. Probably be the second tier that does the Podunk city 

Natalie: tour.

Natalie: Wilson. There's no one who supports anyone. Anyone who's living on the road like that than me, but there are differences. Um, cuz we saw 

Julia: Hamilton. I went and saw with a friend. I can't believe I was called that person friend in San Francisco and order

Natalie: order from wish or she, when you order from she, you forget to read the reviews and look for the pictures. Only reviews. That's 

Julia: she and toxicity, clothing. Oh, my God. Is it poison digress in a different way? Um, is my t-shirt poison? Do I need to go? I don't know, high the levels are, but like there's all this stuff floating on the internet about the toxicity.

Julia: I'm sorry, Fred. I forgot you ordered for 

Natalie: them. I've only ordered once to stop ordered. I've only ordered once because I needed graphic tees. Yeah, because of my new career trajectory. Yes. 

Julia: um, back to grease lightning, I feel like the live version mm-hmm , which I haven't watched is the version from wish I'm saying that without having seen it, which is probably like the most ignorant thing, but that's what the Internet's for to say things without any info.

Julia: Right. Yeah, I should watch it and then come back and be like, no, I was right. Or, eh, I was wrong.

Julia: This dress in Natalie shirt is probably poison. I

Natalie: okay. I wasn't, I don't want here's the thing. Okay, Vanessa Hedin you did a good job. 

Julia: His pride was good. Really? Mario. Oh, watch him. 

Natalie: I don't watch, but Mario, 

Julia: you know what his opinion is good though. Like we've only disagreed on a handful of things, but that's taste preference. Like he's a good marker for when something's quality.

Julia: Yeah. I don't 

Natalie: watch the live, um, musicals 

Julia: because they make mad because the sound of music with Carrie. The last one that I could do surfing Underwood was so 

Natalie: bad. I was enraged. And then I thought, do I become one of those people who just live tweets their rage on the internet, but then everyone else got all pompous.

Natalie: Like, well, at least they did something. No, 

Julia: no, no warning, bad behavior. We do not reward bad behavior. That sound of music version was so bad that if Christopher plum he was alive, when it happened, he was alive. I, but like, it's like, no, just no sound of music is one of the best films, musicals of all time.

Julia: And it's 

Natalie: so long. So we had to sit through, carry it underway. I mean, I didn't, cause I turned it off at after seven minutes, 

Julia: girl, can, I love her girls got pipes, but acting is not her thing. Bless her heart. 

Natalie: And that was the last time I watched one of the live ones because they pissed me off and I was tired of being angry.

Natalie: And then I was like, I was like, oh my God, am I one of, so I know it's not actually happening, but because I typed it, I'm like, is my shirt giving me a rash?

Julia: Maybe take the ticker down. So that way it's not reminding you maybe. And then that way you don't like psycho, you don't like psycho trip yourself into 

Natalie: is my rash from sheen. Is it from David's bridle? We don't know. 

Julia: we don't know. One time I went to go get, cuz there's this bakery in town that makes fresh macrons every day, the French ones mm-hmm and they're, that's like my favorite dessert in the whole entire world.

Julia: And I went in and I was like, oh, what are your flavors today? And he rattled off a bunch of flavors of coconut and I was like, oh, I'm allergic to coconut. I can't have any of those. And he's like, oh, this one doesn't have coconut. And I was like, but it's in the cabinet. And the edges are literally touching each other.

Julia: Yeah. So I just better not. And he's like, well, what happens? First of all, that's not a question. You ask somebody when they just tell you, you have, they have a food allergy. 

Natalie: What if I like, what if I lift it up my shirt sleeve? And it was just like raw in the entire time I be like, Jules you would have to send me those clickbait articles when they, when they have something to do with me, coconut 

Julia: too, Mario, literally people tell me that I'm in my head about being allergic to coconut.

Julia: And I'm like, yeah, cuz my feet and my hands and my face swelling up is in my head. And then sometimes like red and splotchy and I'm very itchy. Like, no don't act like my coconut allergy is fake just because you don't know anybody like, like with, with it. You like cabin 

Natalie: fever. I have to admit, I have to guess that that has something to do with my impending rash.

Julia: no, we have digressed into a FaceTime call. We really have, 

Natalie: um, let me scan my notes one more time to make sure that there wasn't anything. Oh, John Volta doing a tough guy walk. Even when he was trying to 

Julia: like he basketball, he had, he had a, it was like he had a butt plugin or something like, no, no disrespected butt plugs, but like, you know what I mean?

Julia: And like, it was that moment of like, did they put something up there for you to walk like that? 

Natalie: We didn't talk about Marty cat fishing dudes in the Marines. Was it? I grew up to catfish a lot of dudes on AOL chat and I'd like to thank Marty. . 

Julia: Have you listened to the most re recent episode of pod meets world?

Julia: No. when you do girl, you message me immediately. My backpack just fell. It started. Oh, I thought it was Joseph. No, she's by the door. Poor thing. It's poor. It's not as hot today as it has been in days past, but I'm just like, I would like to wait until the sun's like behind the trees before we venture outside.

Julia: Well, 

Natalie: I guess the time has come where we take grace and we rate our comfort levels with grace again. So how comfy, if you are still comfy, are you 

Julia: with grace? Listen, this movie makes me so uncomfortable. I know me too, but not, but having said that I will still fucking watch it. 

Natalie: I will go back to not listening to the dialogue.

Natalie: What does that say about 

Julia: me now that I know that it is a horrific movie? 

Natalie: It is really uncomfortable to watch. I don't know if I can watch it anymore. I dunno if I can watch it anymore. And if, instead, I just need to stick to the soundtrack, but then they're like our horrific, 

Julia: the chicks will VRE. I like that the chicks 

Natalie: will cream is what you think is the most horrific line in all of Greece.

Natalie: So the fact that women are getting wet over, that's not what I think. Greaser 

Julia: cards, cards. That's not what I think is the most horrific line, but I don't remember it from before. So it's like when that line happened, this time is like, why don't I remember that 

Natalie: line? That's the only line I remember from grace light name.

Natalie: It's the, it's like the one that they emphasize the most. I don't think I can watch grace anymore. Mostly. It takes me out of my suspension of disbelief to be watching 40 year olds play teenagers. Like they just look really old. Yeah. And then they're 

Julia: you gotta give it to Olivia Newton. John though. She, I love Olivia.

Julia: She so good in this movie. She 

Natalie: was the youngest looking one. Yeah. And she was so good. And she like, she was so good and they all did. And stocker Channing was good as Rizzo. I mean, she has always cemented in my head as Rizzo, but I have come to the age where I'm like, oh, I guess I can't watch people who look like me play teenagers anymore.

Natalie: Right. Doing teenager. Bullshit. 

Julia: Yeah. With that said, Natalie and I are both available for any high school television show or movie you are looking to cast. There were 

Natalie: things I could do then with a boy, or I completely lost that.

Natalie: Hire me, like you hired Peter SPRO for mama Mia. 

Julia: I mean, really? 

Natalie: Um, but yeah, I don't know, 

Julia: you know what? It will be a really good test to see if I could watch it again, if it's on. Cause I used to never turn it off. It was if it was on, but we'll see now. And then 

Natalie: part of it too, is that Greece isn't actually that witty or interesting, like I was actively getting bored in between songs.

Natalie: Did we talk about that? I was getting bored in between songs. Like usually I try to not play with my phone because we're supposed to be working 

Julia: yeah. Taking like, I like to take notes and I like to be like, come yeah, Uhhuh. I literally have very few notes for this. 

Natalie: Yeah. Grace's 

Julia: full of doodles. This page is full of doodles.

Natalie: It's not very witty and it's not very funny. So when you have to sit there and I thought that the songs happened in more rapid succession than they actually do. So when you're just sitting through minutes yeah. Of 40 year olds being teenagers, mm-hmm, talking about relish on dicks. Mm-hmm I'm like, I don't know.

Natalie: I had such a soft spot for this 

Julia: one. Everybody does it's everybody does phenomenon for a reason. I mean, people lose it. I told, you know, and it's, it's fine. Okay. But when you analyze it through the pop culture makes me jealous lens or through the men I've tolerated before lens, you know, it's clearly problematic.

Julia: I mean, we didn't even talk about how fucking white this movie is. 

Natalie: Oh, it is very white. Um, I don't know if you all know this, but 1950s, that was just like a very white decade. yeah. In our country, there are never people of color in that 

Julia: decade. No, clearly there's, you know, we didn't exist until even after they integrated schools, we still didn't really exist.

Julia: Um, but yeah, I, you know, it'd be interesting if somebody gave it a 21st century refresh with, without being like thoughtless about it, because like the John legend cover of baby it's called outside is trash. That song is trash. They never should have made it it's trash. But if somebody was to be thoughtful about.

Julia: Greece mm-hmm and working it in a way where you do have a, a diverse casting, diverse setting, especially Chicago. I think it's supposed to, I think the original play is set somewhere in like the Chicago area. So I'm just like, well, there's hell black people in Chicago, like, come on. Um, I think that it would be really interesting to see, you know, not colorblind casting.

Julia: Mm-hmm , that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying rework Greece to be less vulgar, be smart about the sexual innuendos, not gr like not vulgar about it. Yeah. Like an, an intelligent version of Greece that's entertaining. I would be, I would love to see something. I would love them, 

Natalie: but please also know that I get pissed off when things are over CED

Natalie: So when I went and saw in Indiana and they were like bypassing dirty jokes and not cursing and they kick, they like, um, Took out. You're the one that I want. I was like, then why do 

Julia: Greece? Yeah. See that doesn't make sense to me either, because then you're losing the essence of what's happening because the point of the show is, is to see this guy who's in this completely like underbelly subculture that nobody respects and nobody has appreciation for, but he's still kind of cool in his social setting, but he's a sub genre.

Julia: Mm-hmm, make the conversion to catch and reclaim. I'm saying that deliberately, right. This girl who's pure and beautiful and lovely. And like what we're all told we need to be. But at the same time, she's going through the, her own transition to meet him in his subculture. Mm-hmm so like when you take out those things and C it down, then you're losing the transition and the growth.

Julia: Right. 

Natalie: And like, let's be clear. teenagers are trash mouths and they do talk stupid because they don't know anything. Yeah. So they just talk stupid 

Julia: yeah. Well, and you know, there's teenagers do a co a version of code switching too, right? Like we all know code switching is very like a thing that the, you know, black community is famous for.

Julia: Um, but you know, we do not to co-opt it, but every culture and ver and subculture has their own version of code switching. And, you know, I saw that with my, my own teens group of friends. Yeah. Like they knew how to be behave in front of me, quote, and then the minute I am, you know, out of sight, but still with an earshot.

Julia: Cause the apartment's small, they're going back to being, you know, teens. Yeah. So there's like a point too where I'm just like you, you, I guess, you know, I guess I think that Sandy would be in AP classes of AP classes existed in 1959. 

Natalie: No, So, yeah, I'm not really, I guess I'm just not interested in being comfy with Greece anymore.

Natalie: Yeah. So there you have it. Yeah. I get that. I'm not sad to let it go. I mean, I'm not gonna stop hopelessly devoted to you if it comes up on my playlist. Mm. So it's just like Elvis, I'm not sad to let you go and to realize that you are a cultural appropriator. Yeah. But I'm still gonna listen to hound dog.

Natalie: Yeah. 

Julia: Yeah. And you know, when you get the chance to watch that Mariah, Carrie video hopelessly devoted with her and Olivia. Oh, so 

Natalie: good. Yeah. So you've done good. Olivia Newton, John. And you did your best with the hand that was dealt to you when it came to Greece. Yeah. So thanks for letting all of us secret hose know that at any moment we could put on our leather pants.

Julia: just, just make sure, just make sure it's in the winter time, because in the winter, the minute you sweat, those fuckers are either just sealed, not coming off. Or if you finally get them off, not counting back on. 

Natalie: Yeah. All right. Jules, tell everyone again where they can find Jeff. All right, friends, 

Julia: you can find me on the gram.

Julia: That's where I spend most of my time, the Julia Washington, th E Julia Washington. You can also find my show on Instagram. Pop culture makes me jealous, same name. You can find the pod wherever you find your podcast and listen to it this week. We are in our summer rebroadcasting, uh, mode. So this week I think we are going, we are revisiting our discussion about Moxi, which is the Netflix original it's based on a book.

Julia: So, you know, I love a book to screen adaptation. Um, last week we revisited mean girls. So that's a good listen. Um, should I do our plug for tomorrow? Yes. 

Natalie: Since it's on your channel. 

Julia: Yeah, uh, Natalie and I will be live on Instagram tomorrow night, Tuesday, August 23rd, 23rd. We will be discussing the first two episodes of the prime original, a league of their own, which is an homage to, or a different version or different facet rather of the movie based on the all American girls baseball league that ran in from 1943 to 1954, we will be live on Instagram on my channel.

Julia: Pop culture makes me jealous. You do not wanna miss that because Natalie and I both fucking love the 1992 version of a league of their own. So we're very excited to dive into that conversation. That's 7:00 PM. Pacific 10:00 PM. Eastern. And then the replay will happen whenever we finish our FaceTime call on that show.

Natalie: and then I'm, Naton you're hostess with the mostess saying your Midwest hot Hollywood hot host of to all the men I'm tolerated before. Uh, we drop episodes every Thursday, this Thursday, it will be, um, one of my friends and I writing romance novel synopsis on the fly based on Tinder dating profiles that I found.

Natalie: And last week we it's a real good episode. It's called Twilight sucks hard, cuz I'm funny. and it's all about how Stephanie Meyers damaged young women from coast to coast when it came to those sparkly vampires. Um, but yeah, and then a league of their own tomorrow. Mm-hmm all right, everybody I'm ready to kick it.

Natalie: Stay cozy out there. Stay comf. Or don't what if it sucks? but on your whole pants, put on your whole pants, grab tea. I'm gonna go see if my skin is melting off for my chief t-shirt.

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Episode Directory

• Bonus 8
• Book to Screen 15
• Disney 1
• Patreon 1
• Season 1 31
• Season 2 25
• Season 3 25
• Season 4 30
• Season 5 21
• Still Comfy? 2