Gossip Girl Recap | 22

Show Notes:

Julia & Sarah Recap Episode 2 of Gossip Girl 2.0. Do we hate this show? No. Could it be better? You'll have to listen to find out.


Transcript:

Julia: Hey friends, this is pop culture makes me jealous. And I'm your host, Julia and Sarah and I are here to recap episode two of gossip girl. But first we need to talk about what we got right or wrong about our predictions from last time.

Okay. So some up real quick, from some statements we made last week, Jordan Alexander, who plays Julene, Calloway is mixed racial. She's originally from Canada. I couldn't personally confirm if Whitney peak is biracial, but did confirm she was born and raised in Uganda until our family moved to Canada in 2012 at Westwick was born in Stevenage.

I don't know how to fucking say it had had her for sure. England, somewhere in England,

the worst, the worst for all of the British period pieces I'm seeing. I should do better with that shit. Okay. So just to recap, Sarah's prediction. For from last week where there would be petty wars, Duroda coming back more in depth character development. My predictions were coming to blows between sisters about OB and Audrey starts to have fantasies about Wolf.

Okay. Episode one. Here's what some critics had to say. ABC news said the new version stumbles by pushing its characters to feel bad about feeling good. Talk about a buzzkill guilty. Conscious is no substitute for guilty pleasure. The guardian ran a headline that. Gossip girl, have you a clumsy, but watchable homage to the beloved teen pit and the article itself stated it also updates the originals most overt problem.

The new gossip role is racially diverse with two black women in the lead roles, queer and sexually fluid. Still even with the should be standard changes. The new gossip girl falls into a weird limbo and ode to teen era, barely past updated for an audience that probably prefers tic talks to privilege born whose copious pop culture references, wink mostly to viewers in the late twenties or thirties.

It's a, mid-length frustrating if bingeable Alma. To guard an IP property to have the albeit disingenuous ambition of HBO Max's generation, nor the grit of HBO before you a genuine hit with real teams, cosmopolitan reports that the show is getting mixed reviews by fans stating given how iconic OJI gossip girl was it's unsurprising that the reboot attracted some major attention for both fans of the original series and a new generation of Watchers.

But after seeing the first episode, viewers had some pretty mixed opinions about the show. Sarah, did you hear anything else in the stratosphere? Oh, 

Sarah: gosh, um, she sin, not Jason Schwartzman, the other Jason, Jason Schwartz. There's Jason shorts, but there's another Jason. That was also a co-producer on the first one.

That's also involved in the second 

Julia: one. It also has a last minute and then 

Sarah: it starts and it's killing me. But, um, I read an article with him this week and he was talking about the reviews that obviously they'd gotten reviews in. Right. And he's talking about the reviews and how basically he was writing it off.

Like the critics didn't quite get it yet, or that they'd get it soon. And that, I don't know if that was a plus replug employee or if it was because he genuinely thinks that this is like, Slow burn. Like it's just starting, 

Julia: we're getting the buildup. Okay. Here's the recap episode two opens on the cusp of the parent teacher night for the prep schools.

Audrey's frustrated by her mother's lack of presence in her life and does not feel supported by hockey JC and team work to take soil down by any means necessary. While OB is trying to convince soya to go out with him. Gossip girl posts about an impromptu rendezvous made by hashtag Zoghbi, which JC counters with a post of her own suggesting our fair Gigi is a liar.

Gossip girl begins losing credibility and Kate Keller panics. As she worries about losing control of the narrative. Matt is attempting to seduce a teacher and uses AQI as his quest to lore. Mr. Should I can't remember how to pronounce his last name, but he's hottest shit. Secondary to Jaycee's take down Azalea.

She still worries and schemes to ensure Davidson that don't cross paths. Obi finally convinces soya to go on a date with him. If he can meet her condition of no one finding out the next night, the school is hosting a fundraiser to bring funds in, to purchase supplies for students and underfunded schools.

JC reaches out to gossip girl for help in taking down soya and winning Zoghbi back with her minions approval. We also find out that Audrey's father has left her mother for her mother's assistant and that Mrs. Hope's businesses struggling during the fundraiser, however Davis and Nick finally run into each other OB and as a refresher Davis and Nick are Julian and soy his fathers obese way of getting a first date with Zoya.

He sends tickets to her and ensures their seats are sitting next to each other without raising any suspicions Wolf bids on an auction item that he believes will put him in. Mr. Mr. HOTT teacher's direct path and JC has received serious Intel about soya from gossip girl, which she plans to use to finally destroy her.

At the auction Audrey's mother arrives late and drunk causing the most embarrassing scene. OB convinces the way to ditch the party after her and pastor impassioned speech about the fundraiser and how it's a waste of money. He takes her to a school supply store to purchase all the school supplies that they can JC follows them and sees what she's been missing.

Her sister cares about the same things as OB it gifts. She can never give him herself. So after 48 hours or so of scheming and manipulation, JC gives up the fight. But justice, she tries to be the hero. The dads show up at this field trip. David's. Nick is disappointed. They're both angry. And the tension that has been brewing since the end of episode, one comes to a head all while Kate Keller is watching.

And if you remember fair listeners, Kate Keller is our gossip girl. In the end, all things get resolved. Rather cleanly Davis realizes that he's failed his daughter yet again, and it met and it admits it's time to be a family with the Lotz, Mr. Lawton, Zoya plan to withdraw Zoya from school, JC convinced us or not to admits that she never cared about obese causes and sees the joy.

It brings him because Loya does. And Ms. Kate Keller decides not to use the serious until she received on Zoya for now. Sarah, did I miss anything in the recap? That was a lot of free. It was a lot. I didn't know what to leave out. You know, it's hard next week will even be shorter, 

Sarah: I think. Okay. So I'm just going to dive in.

Yeah, let's do it. I'm just going to dive in. This is what we're doing. So there's a couple of things that stood out to me in this, in this particular episode, I'm going to start with OB and soya. 

Julia: There's some things I didn't put in the recap, cause we're going to talk about them. Okay. Go ahead. OB 

Sarah: slash Doug's OB Zoghbi.

I'm going to start with Zoe. So soy is presumably 14. Yeah. And obese a junior. So like 

Julia: 17, 16, 17, 17. I know like Audrey talks about how she's 16 all the time. So I feel like, 

Sarah: but then max in this episode talks about how he's 18. Oh. So I don't know if they are a friend group that is a mesh of juniors and seniors or if they are all juniors and he got held back at some point I missed a line.

He got held back, but I'm assuming, I'm assuming sure that OB is 17. Yeah. It's 

Julia: a fair assumption. 

Sarah: Seven 14 to 17 is not a lot of years, but it is a lot of maturity difference. And I'm not sure how I feel about a fresh freshman and a junior right off the bat clicking and supposedly like dating in the end, like as a P as a parent.

Now that I'm, and I got my old lady glasses on and my lights here, um, I, I, that concerns me. It concerns me because I'm like, okay, well, where are you going with this? Because like, they're young. So are they just going to have this honorable court 

Julia: ship the whole time 

Sarah: gossip girl journey? And is that appropriate in today's climate?

Julia: So to piggyback on that, cause I, I also am like, cause I'm looking at the girl who's playing. Zoya and I'm thinking, gosh, I know she's 18, but dammit. I would believe it if she really was 14, because she looks so young to piggyback on your appropriateness. I'm really, really, I really struggle with narratives where, or with storylines where there's a student or teacher pursuing a student or teacher, I struggle with that shit a lot because it feels like we've normalized it and it's not fucking okay.

Sarah: And we're going to say. Jason Schwartzman has normalized it. This is his, oh, here, which characters end up with teachers and appropriately. And then for now the teacher standing his ground, but even to suggest it 18 and 25 or whatever, the teachers, it's still inappropriate. There's a balance of power there that it is not appropriate.

So, and no amount of wealth 

Julia: from Wolf's family changes that balance of power is not, he is not in the position of power is all in this 

Sarah: scenario. And I feel like, I feel like these are our reoccurring tropes that we talked about fearing last week. But now that they're obviously coming to fruition, it's almost disappointing.

Go somewhere else, guys, do something different, something else because a teacher and a student is not appropriate. There is a power balance that exists there. There's also a huge, not agent numbers, but age in life. Difference between an 18 year old and say 25 or 26 year old teacher. 

Julia: And this teacher is fucking 

Sarah: fine.

He's a good looking man, but, and I get it, but it's still an insinuate that he needs to keep. What did he say? Does he say not rimming, edging, edging?

Julia: I'm glad you did something that's HBO 

Sarah: until, until after graduation to insinuate that once they graduate. But, um, no, it's not okay. It's not okay. And honestly it, depending on where it goes, Zoya and OB is 

Julia: potentially not okay 

Sarah: either and already you have, and this is something that she wouldn't be able to help because we are, she moved to in the school she's in, in the fish, out of water situation, but she's a middle-class at best girl.

And he comes from the one of the wealthiest families in New York. And they talk about how he's the richest of all of the fronts. And so he comes from one of the wealthiest families in New York. And the first thing he does to try to get her attention is buys overpriced tickets to a fundraiser so that she can go.

And I feel that. That's a problem too. That's a power move, right? Like I bought these for you. So like, does she owe you something or are you a nice guy? Is 

Julia: that Logan Hunsberger grand gesture that we 

Sarah: need to be? I haven't. And I haven't. There you go. And I haven't decided yet whether that's a nice guy thing, like, oh, money means nothing to me.

And this is something, you know, you're passionate about children or whatever, or are you like, is it a flaunt? Like, 

Julia: and he has the potential to be somebody who's just at, cause he made a comment in the first episode about how he, he enjoys how much it pisses off his parents, that he is socially active. So where's the level of sincerity when you are his philanthropic newness.

Where's the sincerity in that because you're pissing off your parents. 

Sarah: You're just making mommy and daddy mad to make them mad. And are you, do you really care? Do you really care about defining your parents? And then, you know, they have the, um, she has an impassioned little speech about how it's such a waste of money.

All these people are drinking alcohol and wearing fine clothes and everything that they're wasting, the money that could go towards student supplies. And then he pulls yet another grand gesture where not only does he take her on a no money limit, black shopping spree for school supplies, which would be my funds.

Right.

But he chooses, he chooses to do it in a local store. Okay. That's commendable that shows that 

Julia: it wasn't take Amex because Amex is the devil. But 

Sarah: then you will, he pulled out a black card, let's say max, right? Yeah. Yeah. So, um, so you woke this man up and made him open your, his store in the middle of the night.

So you could have a shopping spree and man seems to be enjoying your display of young courtship affection, but it's still wildly inappropriate. You couldn't say, um, you know, you think that this is a waste of money. Let's meet tomorrow for coffee. And like, he couldn't have made up some other scenario where, so it's just, again, more of the power balance shifts.

Like it makes it to where he's not courting. And this sounds so, so 2021, right. But like it's where young nee and even young, all of us 20 years ago would have 10 years ago would have found. Almost romantic. I was cringing and I hate to admit that because again, listeners, I don't hate the show. I'm watching.

Julia: I'm 

Sarah: choosing this. I'm genuinely enjoying this. I am just waiting out that there are some problems. There's a lot of broken, 

Julia: like the scene where, so, you know, Wolf is like, oh, he sets his eyes on this super hot teacher whose last name. I cannot pronounce that every time I hear it on screen, I can say it perfectly.

So I don't know what the fuck the problem is. He realizes that he goes to the. Bath house. I dunno what the fuck it's really called, but it is about house. Okay. And he's like, oh, Tuesdays it's only men let's go and convinces AKI to go with him. And that a hard convince listener, obviously, because if you'll remember fair listeners and last week's episode, we discussed that, you know, there was a moment between AKI and Wolf and there was clearly going to be X, some exploration there.

Well, we got our answer in this episode because they're at the bath house. They're all fucking naked, which is just, is that what happens in a bad house? Everyone's just watching. Okay. Admittedly, I'm a little bit of a prude when it comes to nudity for myself. No, but we don't have that kind of time. Um, and so, you know, he wants to make the teacher.

So, you know, he and Acura are having this conversation and will says, do I have your consent and an accurate, like my consent for what? And then he realizes that he was trying to make the teacher jealous because they're standing in front of the teacher. The teacher is in another room, but there's a window and he can see them.

So now you're naked with your teacher. Granted it's a public thing, but still, and so AQI leans in for the kiss. He's not, he's not, he realizes he puts it together and he leans in for the kiss. He's enjoys the kiss. Yes. He has a physical response enjoying the kiss that Wolf calls them out on. And then the teacher comes out and is like, what are you doing here?

This is inappropriate. First of all. I'm not going to fucking talk to you. If you're doing something, that's putting me in a position that's going to be inappropriate. Right. Cause I don't want to lose my job. I'm going to say, I didn't see you there. Plausible deniability. 

Sarah: I didn't even notice they were there so many other people were there on Tuesdays.

Julia: Cause it's men only. Right. Um, so that bothered me. I mean, not AQI and him kissing because I'm like, but I felt kind of weird about the whole, do I have your consent thing? Because I thought, you know, consent is kind of an actual issue and the way that that was presented, like you're just, what are you like?

confusion. What are you asking for consent for like that? You know, he's just doesn't understand. And then he has to put it together and realize what he's and, but it was just like anything. What does that mean? Anything? So I feel like it's, 

Sarah: and even in, even in a bathhouse, I don't think that you would stand in.

I don't know, just make it all the time. Especially our gay males. If you've been to a bath house, I know there's one in San Francisco. Um, tell us a little bit, tell us what's appropriate and not appropriate. I know that history of bath houses, and I know what used to be appropriate, but I also was under the assumption that if things went on in bath house, it wasn't like it's not an orgy.

Right. And so he's 

Julia: standing there holding a towel over his ding dong, and you're just like, I called it a ding dong. You know, my mom was my mom listens to the show, so I have to pick and choose the weird shit I say, right? Yes. His member member different, different, different show. If you know, you know, um, based on a towel, just like I'm just going to hold a towel over my Dick while everyone else is naked.

And I'm just. Uncomfortably or is this like normal? Like, I don't even know. I need somebody to tell me a public display 

Sarah: of affection in the way that it was like, it was like when two girls get drunk at a party and decide to make out, to make 

Julia: boys. That was very big when we were in our twenties. 

Sarah: Is that still a phase?

I probably still think, I feel like that's an age old thing. I feel like that's. So let's ask gen ears. Are there any gins ears on this old podcast? Thanks

people. Is that a thing that was huge in the early on? Huge. And I feel like that's what this was. Yeah. And again, that leads to our writers. 40 year old women are our writers. We need some young writers in the show. Because these things are, are they dated dated display? Is this something that yes, it's fantastical and it's all escapism and this isn't something that's going to happen in real, our real lives and your tangible life we would be near anyway.

But, um, I still want to look at it and go, oh yeah, that, that that's hot. That could happen. Right. But that is not hot. I don't think not because I felt that there th the idea of them kissing, I've been wanting since last week to see kiss. It's the idea of the why they kiss, right? Like if they ha, if they shared a moment in a closet, literally in a closet last week, which I thought was okay, that's Vail symbolism.

Cool. Um, this week you have them out in the open, but they're kissing for the wrong reason. And it feels 

Julia: like such a dishonor to AQI is self exploration and his sexuality. Yes. Because he, like last week, we clearly see. Got some sort of feelings going on when he's interacting with Wolf, there's a disconnect between Audrey and he, and then this week for this to happen, it feels like you're not allowing this person to truly explore, which I think would be more acceptable now.

Like that like feels like a very dated 

Sarah: scenario. Right? And, and this is just moments after he's confided in max, that Audrey is someplace else all the time, mentally, even when they're having sex, like he's confided in him, something very intimate and private about his relationship with his girlfriend. And, and then we go into, and we had this moment last week, and then we go out into the bathhouse and.

Max capitalizes on the moment they shared the week prior that we know of who knows how many moments that were quote unquote off-screen, but he capitalizes on this moment and knowing that AQI is unstable in his relationship to use him for a display to catch somebody else's eye, it does 

Julia: feel icky. And then it's just going to cause a whole issue with them.

Um, on top of that, I, by the end of this, so AQI and Audrey are having issues because Audrey just wants somebody to support her and her emotions when it comes to her mom and, and not trying to fix it and to quote my dear friend sitting next to me AQI is being captain save a ho. And because he's playing the other side and he's understanding of her mom's plight and all these things.

And I have to tell you, the actress is fucking amazing. She wasn't younger. It wasn't, she was the fucking bitch on younger. I've seen her in other stuff that she was amazing in and watching her on younger. I was like, yeah, I'm Quinn. Oh, in real life and Morris something or other. And I'm watching her in this episode, I was like, oh, you're such a great actress.

Because to go from seeing her in the last few episodes of younger to this episode, it's like night and day, she can embody a complete, like, she's the epitome of acting. She can embody something so different every time. And 

Sarah: she's embodying having a mental 

Julia: breakdown. It's an addiction issue or is she taking medication because of 

Sarah: medication?

Gotcha. So she's taking psych medication. She, she does have, she should not be drinking and she does, 

Julia: oh my God. That seemed crap to me. That's not a thing. It's not a thing. And I'm like, so we drunkenly said, that's not a thing about stuff that's actually serious, but 

Sarah: she, we discover that, um, Kiki and I imagine her name's Kristin or Catherine.

Okay. So what they call her Kiki. So Kiki, um, Kiki hope, Kiki hope is a, and this is again pulling from a cookie jar, but she is a much like Blair, Waldorf smother. She is a fashion designer. She designs AFI leisure, which is very okay. That's very trendy, but I mean, it's, it's a lazy man's job to give her.

Sorry. Um, so she is struggling. Her business is struggling because you know, Fabletics exists. So, and so her business is struggling and her marriage has ended or is in the process of ending. And it's been very public. She makes a comment about it being on page six. Um, and 

Julia: there's still a lot of mystery there though, because, uh, Audrey makes a couple of comments were just like, what does going on?

Sarah: Yeah. And she has to have her father not attend the school benefit because the mother doesn't want to be in his presence because the father apparently left Kiki for her system, her personal assistant. Which does that still happen? I'm sure. I'm absolutely sure it didn't. It just happened. With the Kardashians.

Julia: Not that long ago. Oh yeah. We ain't got that kind of time. We 

Sarah: don't have to get into the Kardashians, but I mean, like it legit happens. Even know like Jude law left Sienna Miller for the nanny to 

Julia: see an American Miller's fucking beautiful. You guys were in her front yard at this time. So if you hear like weird noises, it's because we're outside of her front yard.

Cause that's what you do 

Sarah: when you're a gossip girl off Festo. Yes, exactly. 

Julia: So after in the wake of all that, you know, she, and AQI have this conversation and they have this bite outside kisser hauling her trunk ass mom and took a car to get her out of there after a big ass meltdown in the fundraiser.

And the next morning, 

Sarah: the next morning, spoiler alert, spoiler alert. Audrey goes to check on her mother and when she goes back to her own bedroom, Mr. Max, whoa. Is dressing in her bedroom and she's asking him why he hasn't left yet. And she tells him to not tell anybody, which I don't think he will tell anybody, but I still think it's going to get out, going to hold it 

Julia: over him.

The way that he, with the situation with Adelaide secrets. Yes. He's collecting secrets to cash. And later was that a good move to make both of those things happened between Wolfen and AQI and then Wolf and Audrey Audrey. In the same episode, 

Sarah: I feel like we're on this accelerated timeline where there's no rules and everything's getting

I'm feeling rushed in my timeline. Like I know that we predicted that there was going to be some sort of trust between the three of them or within the three of them. I thought they'd give us more buildup. I felt like there was none. I felt like last week was the buildup and now this week everything's happening.

And so it didn't feel like enough buildup to me. So I'm wondering, I mean, Are we trying to get everything into one season just in case hers? Or 

Julia: maybe, maybe because, well, I will say though, he talks about when Wolf is like, oh, he's at this bath house and this picture was on this day and it's September 7th.

It's a Tuesday, which is a Tuesday. So they're in the future, but they're in the same year because he, the timestamp on the teacher's picture of the bath house is September 7th of this year. And it's a Tuesday because Tuesdays are days for only men. So I looked at my calendar. I was like, it's September 7th of this year.

It sure should is, 

Sarah: well, we know that the second part of the season isn't coming back until fall. So I'm wondering if we're, 

Julia: if they released it all the six episodes early. 

Sarah: Yeah. Yes. Or, I mean, I guess that doesn't matter again, this is old people problems because it takes away from the believability. It takes away winter coat, not wearing clothes, clothing.

So I'm assuming they filmed in the winter, but I feel like, um, there was no buildup for that dress. And, um, and then the, the, yeah, like, 

Julia: did she get real? So she's going to call max back every time. Well, she 

Sarah: said she needed to release some tension. Yes. And, um, so I'm just wondering if the next step is, this is a continuation or if this is like, 

Julia: That would eventually end up having a threesome.

Sarah: Yeah. That needs to be like a season finale that I would maybe see. I mean, they're all the age, the appropriate age. Um, teenage teenage sex scenes as an old person. Well, there you go. So I don't know how, like, whereas younger baby was like, Ooh, that's racy old lady me feels like, um, you can allude to it, but maybe I'm part Mormon.

And I just, the black, like a bad Twilight novel and wake up the next morning, which is exactly what they did viewers in this 

Julia: one anyway. So it's not like it's sex in the city where they're 30 something year olds living in New York city. They're high school kids. It's different. So there's a level of like, this makes me feel uncomfortable.

Sarah: Okay. So let's talk about. Let's talk about, we're going to move, move subjects, not so subtly move subjects. And I'm sorry, I'm here for it. I would like to talk about, um, I would like to talk about Julian and Soyuz dads and 

Julia: Luke Kirby, but my dreams 

Sarah: Soyuz dad first. Okay. Um, about Nick, Nick, Nick, lot. My, my Nick lot.

I liked Nick lot. Last week. I felt like he was being a great supportive dad. They moved from Pennsylvania from Albany 

Julia: or Buffalo or something like upstate New York. 

Sarah: They moved from somewhere to 

Julia: New York city, obviously 

Sarah: somewhere from somewhere, somewhere unimportant into New York city. And he did all of this because he wanted his daughter to have this better education opportunity, because she wants to go to Yale and Yale drama.

And he's moved his whole life to New York, I assume, gotten new work in somewhere and all of the things. And then this week also, 

Julia: they live in his mother's apartment on the upper west side. Yes. And so is she dead? Cause I haven't seen her. I 

Sarah: assume that I assume she's dead or grandma's on vacation and 

Julia: I'll find her.

She's not there on the 

Sarah: upper west side, but it's not their place. Correct. She disappointed me this week because he became like a drill Sergeant and he's like, you can't have any friends to distract you and you can't do this and you can't do that. And 

Julia: you're grounded forever. Do you think. 

Sarah: Like when has that ever worked on a teenager?

Well, 

Julia: never but parents. Oh, I mean, we you'll do it. 

Sarah: I'm maybe I'm maybe I'm too 

Julia: young cause I've done it. And I'm like, fuck, I can't believe I just did that shit. I hated it when my parents did that to me and that I walked back in the room and be like, Hey kid, that's not how we operate in this house. You fucked up.

I got a little too strict. 

Sarah: Let's have a, he's having like, does he have, why does he have hate for Julian and Julian's dad? Because it has 

Julia: hate for Julian's dad. Not Julian, Julian. 

Sarah: Well, we don't know yet the grass wrestling. I don't feel like he has space to, because we know that she left him for net 

Julia: and I, well, I got this sinking, sinking suspicion making sneaking suspicion.

Life's hard after 10 o'clock at night. Um, no, you're fine. Um, that. You know, we know that Davis, we know that Davis has, um, a problem. 

Sarah: He drinking, 

Julia: he has a drinking problem. He's addiction problem. And so I'm thinking that had something to do with her, leaving him and going to Nick. Cause that's, that's hard when you're dating somebody in the industry, 

Sarah: but the problem, a woman who leaves her kid behind, but the guy with a drinking problem.

So, so 

Julia: there's layers here that we don't know cause people do that shit all the time. I don't understand it personally, but people do that shit all the time. I feel 

Sarah: like in this situation, it's likely that Nick needs to be the one who has grace and should listen to his daughter that she really wanted to know her sister.

And that this school is a great opportunity for her. And instead he goes off the rails and he's angry and you can't talk to her and you're to stay away from her. And. Um, I just, I don't understand. I mean, I understand the feeling betrayed your kid did wrongly betrayed you. They didn't say what was right.

I don't understand that his anger towards the half sister and her dad, I don't understand. His son switched from super supportive dad to super military, a stick you're on complete lockdown. And you have no more chances. I think she's a kid who in general was 

Julia: okay, but we don't know what happened in the other school.

We know that something bad happened cause Zoia makes a comment about how they can't go back. So I think, I don't know if you caught it, but there was a point where he has a meeting. We don't see it on screen with the school about how like joy is on thin ice. Okay. And I think that was the switch because he's now scared.

Cause he can't afford to stay in New York unless she has this scholarship. Right. 

Sarah: She can't afford to go to school there otherwise. So I'm just, I'm I'm interested to see, I'm hoping. The dads, both, both do a 180. 

Julia: Yeah. Because Davis comes out hot with the whole I'm so sorry. We should, if you wanted this, I should have made sure that you guys had a relationship or done something 

Sarah: to foster that.

And so they turn a 180 by the end of the episode, which is also very neat and tidy and clean. It kind of 

Julia: bothered me that it was so clean and tidy because you know what it's, I don't know how real it is. 

Sarah: And the girls are talking about. How they should act as sisters or what a sister would do. And 

Julia: what is this?

Don't do this to her sister. I'm thinking. Fuck. 

Sarah: Right. And so I'm like, you guys don't know anything about being sisters. You've never had a sister clearly because I don't, sisters are 

Julia: ruthless. There's a period in life when you do dumb shit to each 

Sarah: other, because you know, that person will always, it just siblings never going to leave 

Julia: me.

And I'm never going to leave 

Sarah: her. Something's not going to leave you so you can be awful and go too far. And it's kind of okay. Like it's not, it's 

Julia: not 

Sarah: like it is kind of okay, 

Julia: because you can come back 

Sarah: from it and come back. You can almost come back from anything with a sibling. And so when they're deciding in this episode, like what a sister do that.

Yeah. Sister would totally snitch on her sister just to snitch. Just she just because she's pissed off. Yup. She's mad that day. Like there's no other reason you looked at her wrong, you borrowed her shirt, you stretched up the tit area. Like there's any number of reasons why the sister might do something like that.

So, 

Julia: I mean, for crying out loud and little women, Amy fucking burn Joe's manuscripts because she wouldn't take her to the theater with her, 

Sarah: but she doesn't let Amy 

Julia: drown. No, she totally saves Amy's life. Even though Amy totally burned her fucking manuscript and we're talking 1860 something. So that shit.

There's no copy. There's no copy. You can't say 

Sarah: so. Um, but I do, even though it was a serious about faith for Davis, I'm hoping that means that as a character, we get to see more development from him and we see him more in the series. 

Julia: Oh no. I want to see him more in this area. And I'm 

Sarah: also hoping that, um, like it was a really good 180 for him to realize, like, I feel like he is admitting his transgressions.

He's admitting that he's got problems and he doesn't remember things or chooses not to remember things because he has an addiction. Um, it's very neat and tidy, but I'm hoping there's like some character exploration and I'm still hopeful because we're only in the second episode, but there's going to be deeper character exploration 

Julia: as to the point of like, what's the buildup for next week, because I don't think there's any.

Because, you know, she has 10 

Sarah: there's no Durata, maybe grandma comes back. 

Julia: maybe Kate Keller has this big secret that JC knows about, but like, and her minions know about, but is 

Sarah: that ours? Is that our clocks for 

Julia: next 

Sarah: episode? It's that we're just going to call them minions. Cause that's what they are, the minions, um, and Luna, 

Julia: which by the way, friends, if you care, you can follow these characters.

Actual accounts on Instagram. Yes, you can. It makes me real happy. 

Sarah: So my guess is that we wanna, and Monet are going to for, in the best intentions for their friends, because even though they're shitty minions and they're delusional. Oh yeah, no. Like they think that they're going to be doing her right by getting this information out.

And so they're going to go, they're going to circumvent the whole gossip girl, their best friend's situation, and that's going to come out and that is going to be the bomb show. Um, I also, I don't know how they got to predictions, but I'm feeling that we're doing it. Um, I also feel like we have not seen, hopefully we have not seen, we're only seeing just the beginning of AQI and Audrey discovering or.

Learning about themselves with max. Yeah. And that, that ruffle, it's not what they're called. Is it, or is a polyamorous throttle? I don't grow. I don't know. It's a throttle. Okay. So that trouble, should they choose to become one and where that goes? Um, yes, it's polyamorous, but when there's three, it's called the circle.

Julia: Is that still a thing though? I'm pretty sure that's a thing. I don't know. 

Sarah: I know some throttles. Yeah. 

Julia: All right. From your 

Sarah: mouth to God's ears from there now. Yeah. Okay. 

Julia: So I genuinely didn't know. That's why, so, 

Sarah: um, where that goes. Um, and then, you know, Sobe, 

Julia: um, yes, because at the end of the episodes, Zoya, you know, JC gives her blessing.

Yes. And Sobe and it's OB, Zoya and OB, for those of you who couldn't keep up with that, We see them kissing and the school looks shocked. 

Sarah: So they're all, you know, none of these kids, these kids are so oblivious, apparently even though they live in a fishbowl, well, they live in a fishbowl full of social media.

So this is one of those things that's I'm struggling with is like gossip is not the only one with a fucking camera phone in 2021. So, and she even talks about how, when her counts shut down, because they've turned her in for, I don't know, inaccurate posting or when she's losing her footing. And she's afraid she's lost the gossip girl account on Instagram.

Um, she gets tons of knots. She's talking about how she was getting tons of anonymous tips for the last week and she wasn't using them because she couldn't verify them as credible. And she's also the gossip girl that will only post things if they're totally credible, which we know that. Failed there many times.

And that was part of the hygiene of moving the storylines along, um, is that gossip girl could see something and make an allusion to it and then be like, oh, things aren't always what they seem. Right. Um, but this gossip girl, because she's a nerdy 20 something year old English teacher, um, everything has to be fact checked before it goes up, which in the world of social media, isn't true.

It doesn't work. It doesn't work either. So we have soya pretending that her and OB are still together in the beginning of it. And her minions when I, and Luna are listing off all of the different types of posts she's going to be making. And so, because they handle her social media accounts and they say she has two days, they list off like 15 different event type things that are all just post photos.

And then they're like, so you have like two days to get back with him. Um, The rest of the world. Meanwhile, still has the opportunity and the opportunity to know this, that something's off, especially in such a, I mean, it's a small island. It's not very big. So if he is out somewhere with somebody else, it's not just gossip girl, that's going to see it.

It's going to be any number of the other kids to the other kids being so shocked at the end. And I'm like, where were you guys? Not all at the same benefit two nights ago, right? 

Julia: Because there, you know, he makes this comment early on about how war on the upper west side. No one's going to, there aren't any spies up here and they still get a photo snapped, incentive to gossip girl.

And I'm just like, you can't assume you cannot assume that no one, we all brought our phones and pull up stories and do a video of where we are catching people who probably don't want to be in that story. And they're innocent bystanders. Like you cannot assume, but none 

Sarah: of it's getting online have exactly that.

There's not some sort of. Tagging, you know, there's face recognition tagging with social media where it'll like automatically tag you. If you ever been tagged in a photo that you don't know, the person who has the photo of you, because I 

Julia: have I've, I've deactivated that ability on my accounts 

Sarah: and it has to ask me, but then like sometimes you get like a photo, a little notice, 

Julia: like this person's trying to tag you.

Sarah: They're not trying to attack. It's just that Facebook or wherever you're at, um, recognize the face, the facial recognition or whatever. So this idea that. We're running around having these, uh, like they, they left a, uh, populated event together and nobody noticed, and then they went shopping and there was a big blow out in front of the store.

And nobody 

Julia: noticed, and that killed me is that all of the public fighting, they had like in the G that kind of shit would have surfaced on, on the 

Sarah: blog and in real life. Now, then that was like salacious right now. That seems like, I mean, I watched a guy 

Julia: fight in a subway on people, these things on Tik TOK or people fighting for fun.

Right. 

Sarah: They don't know who they are. I watched a lady have a meltdown in a Victoria secrets this morning on Tik TOK, 

Julia: watched a guy show up at his girlfriend's, um, hotel building and lose his shit because there was another man there. Oh, fun. The neighbor next door heard the news and just opened the door and started recording.

That's the world we live in now, guys. So now I'm like, if we're going to apply it, we're going to fucking step in here and just quit and do it quietly because I don't need to show up on fucking Tik TOK fighting with you, right. With a voiceover commentary because they don't put in commentary. And cause they don't know that they don't know why we're fighting.

They just assume whatever 

Sarah: also. Okay. So again, listeners, we are loving this terrible show. I mean, I'm not I'm, I'm it? 

Julia: Hey, if Luke Kirby is in every fucking episode, you know, I'm going to stick around forever. 

Sarah: But like in their world, the only thing that matters is Instagram. And I'm like, there's lots of social 

Julia: media.

So that's my thing. Right. I always, I kind of got the, again, back to that sort of like older person writing writers I'm so I think I'm going to research the writer's room for our next recap, because as many of you know who, listen, I've talked about this numerous times, I work in social media and we're always having that conversation of like, how do we break into the audience?

That's under 25 and the answer every single time since Ted talk, his awry has risen to the top has been tipped talk. We're not marketing to under 25 on Instagram. No. And I always kind of got the impression that gen Z didn't really care about the curated feed or the curated stories or the curated reels.

I got the impression lives. More real, more authentic. And, you know, millennials, we, like I've said before, we were in our late twenties when Instagram showed up. And so we kind of, sort of fine tuned that influencer stylist. And now like you can see it, the older generation, our generation is struggling to survive because that curated look isn't really what people under 25 want to see anymore.

And when we were 25, it worked right. So tick, tick talks that like, 

Sarah: I don't know, there's curated in the sense that it's like a dance, you did 80 million times. Right. But there's a lot of random and a lot of, and the thing that I, as an old person, like the reviews 

Julia: feel more authentic 

Sarah: to me. And I feel like the thing that I love about tick talk.

This is a total digression things that I love about Tik TOK is. When I have a thought, when I'm pissy about something, when I'm mad about something I'm frustrated at some first world problem. And I I'm a person and you know this because we're friends, I will send you a video of myself and I've done that for a long time, like just venting.

And so I love that Tik TOK is a platform that you can do that too. Like throw that out there. Like I am not the only one that hates this Starbucks. And so there's a, the social media part of it. The, the social part of it is that you're, you're coming together. There's a lot of stupid pranks and things like that on there, but there's a lot of coming together on.

Hates things you don't like and things you love, and that there's an interaction there that you don't get on other social media platforms, right? In, in, in a con the, the way the content is curated and the way it's made and you have 15, 60, or three minutes, and the three minute function is new or it's brand new, um, that you have this much time to talk about a book and why you love it, or, um, your experience in a certain store or your animal being silly.

Julia: When I talked about how much the history of sitcom family sitcom episode did a disservice by not talking about hanging 

Sarah: with Mr. Cooper. Oh, I love hanging with Mr. Cooper 

Julia: groundbreaking show, and they totally went out to talk about it. CNN, I'm a little disappointed in you. I'm so sorry for all the car 

Sarah: noises were up.

Yeah, no, exactly. And then, and then, you know, and then it curates, um, the way that the curation happens on Tik TOK, isn't like this, um, one person you're following this influencer and they're shiny life. Um, oh, you like books on Tech-Talk look, we're going to fill your feed with books on tech talk and we're going to add in, oh, you, you watch crime novel or crime, you know, real crime.

We're going to throw real crime in there. Oh, we think you might be wicked. We're going to throw that in there. And it's kind of like this dice roll of the things that they think that you might like. And over time, I mean, I'm explaining this and we all know how it works. The point is, is that Instagram does not work that way.

And these curated perfect feeds with these perfect pictures is something that happens every day, all day it's the jig is up. Like we know how it goes and how it's made, and it's not. I'm not buying it. Right. And I know that the under 25 is not buying it. And if the show was made for the under 25, which, because it's about high school students, that should be your target audience.

But I think the target audience show is the people that watched the G gossip girl 40 year old women. And it's probably written by 40 year old women. And we need to check that we're going to check that. 

Julia: Um, so I'm going to throw out a prediction. I think that the dads are finally going to have a conversation.

Sarah: Do we think they're becoming friends? 

Julia: No, I don't think they're becoming friends, but I think that Davis is going to be like, my daughter really wants a relationship with your daughter. What can we do to make that happen? I think he's going to step up for Julian that way. 

Sarah: I think that would be great. I 

Julia: mean, if it doesn't happen in the next episode, I hope they lay the groundwork for that too.

Sarah: Okay. Are we going to predict any repercussions on Kate Keller for being. 

Julia: I can't, I just can't 

Sarah: let this bitch adults. She makes me uncomfortable. She's 

Julia: uncomfortable doing these things, but then she's like, I'm still 

Sarah: gonna do it. Do you remember the, um, the Reese Witherspoon and, um, Matthew Broderick movie election day.

Julia: Oh my gosh. I haven't seen 

Sarah: that movie in Asia. Okay. She reminds me of Reese Witherspoon's character. What was her character? She's just so plus, and she's so good, but she's like maniacally. Good. She's like 

Julia: she does that weird thing where the one eye gets a little, little, or 

Sarah: almost like a Twitch. If you looked at that in psychology, she's.

Mentally off her hinge. She 

Julia: may like a little bit of a sociopath. 

Sarah: There's something because 

Julia: here's the thing. She 

Sarah: acts like a grown adult starts an Instagram attack count to troll children, 

Julia: bully children. Um, and granted, these children are awful, you know, but still their children to work there. And I just, I really struggle with, cause I struggle with her and her that whole behind the scenes of seeing the, the who gossip girl is the girl is the inner workings and the whole like what problems with it and problems with it.

I I'm struggling with that. So I think she she's going to get caught and she's gonna get fucking fight because here's the thing when that information about, um, soya comes out eventually it's the office administrator who helped Kate Keller get that info. There's a clear line now how that information was obtained.

Yes, 

Sarah: yes, absolutely. And I, and I feel like, I mean, is this going to be. A fantastical story, where she goes to some sort of psychiatric hold or she loses her job and she becomes legit stalker. She keeps 

Julia: saying things like dark, the teacher got fired in the first episode. She's like, she can't get a job anywhere, but like, don't you like, why aren't you doing, why are you doing this?

Because you won't be able to get a job anywhere. Once schools find out that you've done this to children, you won't be employable either. Just get a 

Sarah: job at a different school and let the children eat each other. It's like, 

Julia: she's wanted to work where they turned out, Jacqueline Kennedy or Jacqueline Bouvier.

And, uh, Nate Archibald, Caroline Kennedy. Thank you. You have one of those people. I got it. I got it. I got a slide. I'm sorry. But the other thing, I think they've mentioned Nate and Dan specifically, so they must be, so I think they're the two. 

Julia: know, obviously not in this, not in episode three. 

Sarah: I want to know how much money they gave Penn Badgley to come back.

If that happens, because he has stated how much he detested the character of Dan. Really? Yes. He hated the character. Dan, he's not unappreciative for what class deferral did to him launched his career. He did not like that guy. He thought he was a tool is a tool, a tool. Okay. In fairness, obviously my obsession with

So like, what was that bad, scary movie he was in? Was it swim fan? 

Julia: No, no, no. 

Sarah: He wasn't in swimming. No, he was in one where they're like the neighbor. There's an issue with the neighbor and he's like looking into the neighbor's house. It was terrible. I can't, I it's it's there. I don't know why I watched it, but I did so.

You know, and then, and then he was in you, which I mean genius, but also also wrote awkward, uncomfortable. So, um, but he has spoken publicly about how, although he is, um, although we see a grateful for the opportunity and for everything that costs did for his career, he was not a huge fan of Dan himself. So if they got him back as Dan, I want to see, I want to see 40 year old Dan, which by the way, like, I mean, whatever 35 year old, Dan, I want to see.

Julia: So you've talked about this. So I'm going to give you this credit goes completely to my friend, Sarah. We had this conversation, if you'll remember a couple of weeks ago, maybe months ago about the O G gossip girl. And we were speculating about the new gossip girl and what we would like to see. And you had said that you would actually like to see all of these characters come back and be 40 and how they would be navigating life in New York city, et cetera.

I want to see that show too, because 

Sarah: it's hard. That's the show I want. I want, they were 

Julia: such a shit show and also Carter basin was real fucking hot. So if we could get Sebastian Stan back on this show, that'd be great. Um, he might be in 

Sarah: rehab, 

Julia: but this character Kirby. Um, so there's like a lot of things because I always felt like the original was a lot about.

Lilly, there was so much Lily, even when Lily wasn't 

Sarah: in the show. Yes. And they talked about doing a spinoff about Lily when she was young and it never came to fruition. It's kind of a bummer. There was also spinoff talk about Jenny's character. Um, and that also never came to fruition, which is unfortunate because I think there was opportunity for both of those.

I think that the show about Lily actually got piloted, but then it never went anywhere. And it was right around the same time, maybe just before, uh, when we got the Carrie diaries. Oh. So there was like a big wave pre of like the prequels, um, which that was talk about a show that I would have watched more of.

Julia: I don't know 

Sarah: it was, and it lasted one season, if that, and, and it had an AnnaSophia Robb, a young AnnaSophia. I fully enjoyed it, even though it was not in line with sex and the city, but like the storyline, there was a story about Lilly and Lilly's youth. Yeah. And it did not happen. 

Julia: So in that, it'd be interesting to see the gossip girl Occi grown up and how they navigate with their children.

And, you know, did they actually, whatever 

Sarah: who ended up with who, if any, and, um, are

Julia: Serena still married? Yeah. I want to know all 

Sarah: the things, 

Julia: but for the, this new guy, this new Gigi, do you do 2.0, I would like them to get their shifts. Yeah. 

Sarah: Feeling like I'm feeling like we're, we're, we're in this, this is not the wild west of TV. This is something that has been rehashed a million times.

And there's been all kinds of shows that were continuations of other shows later. Um, this isn't like some new version of television, right? But I don't want to see the same thing over and over again, because the reason why none of them ever survive is because they didn't have substance. 

Julia: I need max to have not have the relationship with the teacher.

I mean, AKI to have the space, to explore his sexuality. I need Audrey to come to terms with the fact that she's not perfect and ha and allow herself and allow herself to let go of AKI so they can figure out who they are without each other. 

Sarah: Oh, I liked that. That's very mature, but they're 16, 17. They're still not 

Julia: going to happen, but the way that they present these characters, they seem, seem mature.

And like, it could happen because when they're having that conversation, like he is so insightful about her mom, obviously John's foresightful about Kiki to the point where I'm just like, As an a like that. So that's, so beyond your years, like what's going on in your life that you can be that wise 

about 

Sarah: her mom?

Yes. And we don't see his, we haven't seen his whole home. We've really, we've, we've touched a couple of the family lives now in this episode. So maybe we're going to explore some more. We did see, we did hear some mention of Max's. Um, but we didn't, we still haven't met them. We 

Julia: got a brief introduction in 

Sarah: the first episode, but we haven't actually met Hudson seen, I don't know who they are as characters.

Um, so this was the first glimpse into Audrey's home life, really like deep glimpse because you know, it was serious shit. So that's serious stuff, but is that all we're getting from it? And then it's like magically fixed and her mom files bankruptcy and what, now they're gonna freeze their accounts. And she has to move to a lesser house.

She's going to like move into a crappy apartment. But her schooling is going to magically have been paid for already, even though that's not a thing. And like you don't pay years in advance on private school 

Julia: when Paris, his parents had to flee the country and Yale was already paid for. And I was like, 

Sarah: how does that work?

Does it so like, 

Julia: oh, They make a Sutton foster reference in this episode, which she worked with ASP. I mean, so did Lenny Bruce, Luke Kirby, but the direct, you know, the direct line there, I was like, oh, you guys did it again. Thank you. 

Sarah: I feel like there's a lot of pop culture references that are being missed.

Um, like current pop culture. I feel like a lot of the pop culture that's mentioned in the show is a bit dated. Okay. So I'm hoping that that gets fed up well, and he's today don't know who Caroline Kennedy is. You couldn't remember that it was Caroline Kennedy. And I went 

Julia: through a serious obsession with the Kennedys.

Sarah: Nobody cares about Caroline Kennedy. I mean, I care she's a wonderful woman. Yeah. But after she'd had that scandal of her relationship and after she had that scandal 

Julia: with her housekeeper and all that stuff, I was just like, I need to stop paying attention to the Kennedys unless they're like actually making 

Sarah: politicals.

I'm just, I'm just not trying to speak ill of the dead. I'm just saying that she's been dead since the nineties. 

Julia: No, Jacqueline's been dead. Caroline. Kennedy's her daughter. Carolyn. 

Sarah: Kennedy's 

Julia: the daughter of Jacqueline and Jones. She's the only one left out of that quad. Oh, okay. 

Sarah: I'm sorry. She's not dead.

She's in. I can't say it. She's not great.

So, but they're not going to know they would, that's such long history that they, that children are not going to know. So that is a conflict comment. The 

Julia: references. So how, um, gossip girl's voice is a version of Dorothy Parker and then who was the other? She said two other ones. And so I recognize obviously, Dorothy Parker cause loved earth Parker, but the male name, I was like, oh, I know that name.

That's impressive that you think that gossip girl is at that level. And I can't remember what it was. And then the third one didn't register 

Sarah: for me. But also if under 25 olds are watching this too, they get it because it's not. And I thought 

Julia: that's actually kind of, you really think that gossip girl was that sophisticated.

I mean, we 

Sarah: thought it was Georgina for awhile. Not sophisticated. We've wondered if it was Hillary banks or no, I, Hillary Duff, I'm sorry. The point is, is that it's it's the references made the pop culture references and the cultural references made within the show so far or different era have not been congruent with the age in which the show should be reaching.

So that leads me to believe that this is truly just a fan. This is like, um, fan fiction. This is just for us old ladies who were bored at home. Like

I'm gonna, 

Julia: you know, should I am bored at home half the time. So annoyed after this last year, we all are. But 

Sarah: the point is, is that it cannot be for the under 25 crowd. I would like to see. That interview, where's that interview where we talk about what the target audiences, because the target audience, the target audience is not your son.

You 

Julia: know, I think I read something about that and I I'm going to have to go back and find it and send it to you because they briefly touch on that. Cause, or know, somebody made an opinion that they're clearly trying to tap into the original OJI fan base fan base and hopes that the younger fan base jumps onto, but we haven't had any sort of admit admittance from gossip girl itself that I'm aware of.

But yeah, I think that I have no idea what to expect from next week's episode, because like I said, 

Sarah: I feel like so clean 

Julia: break and tied up in a bow to the point where I'm just like the fuck is going to happen next week then, because you, the only thing that you left hanging was whatever Zoya did when she was in Buffalo.

Sarah: Which has got to be the only storyline that they start with for next week. I feel like that's the only, that's really our only, like you're worried about seeing. And even though I'm worried about it, because what should you get in 

Julia: a fight with somebody and got expelled? Like who, I mean, I didn't do that, but like, I feel like, again, that's another thing that is sort of a played out situation.

And clearly 

Sarah: if the school already had it on record, it's not that big of a deal 

Julia: and should know, because if you get expelled, how does your next school not? 

Sarah: Right. So what would it, what does it matter? What does it matter? What she did? Because she clearly got in without them caring or like they didn't care.

They didn't care enough or, or whatever. The evidence literally came from the records department, the school. So I'm like, I'm not worried about that. It might be a. Tidbit of salacious gossip that might get around for a minute. And like, she'll think her life's ruined for a second and then it'll be fine because it always ends up 

Julia: fine.

I need them to stop doing clean breaks though. Cause it's 

Sarah: going to be, I need some messes that makes me worry. 

Julia: So we keep coming. I mean, obviously we're going to keep coming back, but you know, we need that sort of, I was, I was disappointed that they wrapped up the, the conflict between Sonia and her. Dad's so quickly that okay.

Bothered me. 

Sarah: And I feel like, so I feel like listeners we're we're here and we will be here. We're going to see this through Luke Kirby is hot. We might need to start drinking while we're talking about it, depending on how bad. But like, we're here, 

Julia: here's the show. I want to see Luke Kirby and his music career, because they made mention that he has more Grammys than these two people have a ton of Grammys combined.

And I was like, that's impressive for a fictional world. And then somebody 

Sarah: else, was it somebody 

Julia: else? And then I want to see more of, um, Kiki because she's a hot steam and mess and I'm, I'm here for it because that fucking sex, you grew a business to be huge. And then it all comes, crashing it. Like, how do you, cause you know, I had my life come crashing down on me, not so long ago.

And like, I need to see how other people deal with it. And I'm comforted to know I'm not the only one who lost her shit. And, well, I didn't do the psych meds, but I definitely, definitely did my fair share of alcoholic hopes. So that to me. I feel seen, you know, also, and then also too, I didn't have a shit ton of money when I was going through that, because then at least my kid would have been financially.

Okay. 

Sarah: Yeah, exactly. Well, this is a fantastical world, right? I mean, there are people that live in the world. There are people that live in a world that does not mirror this, but that has aspects of this that have been fooled, right. There are people who live with gross wealth in the upper east side, in the upper west side.

Um, that is a theme, but you know, um, the fantastical storylines likely don't exist. It's probably a lot more boring than that, but the, you know, financial stability would be, 

Julia: yeah, it would be nice. I wouldn't my map. I would appreciate that. Okay. Well, I guess that's kinda, that's, that's our, that's our show.

You this week. I wasn't. I was excited to watch because of our predictions for this week. And now that I don't have any fruit on it, my only prediction really is that, you know, the dads are going to have a conversation and that hopefully you don't want to have her dad have a moment. But other than that, like, I'm like, just give me a lot of scenes with Kirby next week, and I'll be 

Sarah: happy.

Your eye candy, yours. We're hoping for eye candy. And we need to delve into who these writers are. We need to play gossip girl, and we're going to delve into it and we'll let you know. Well, next 

Julia: week we'll be back with our recap of episode three, as always, you can find us on Instagram pop culture makes me jealous.

Thanks for tuning in y'all. We'll talk to you next time. .

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